Depending on whether Hillary or Donald wins...

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  1. Jim4silver

    Jim4silver Well-Known Member

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    I am wondering what might happen to gun company stocks? I think if Hillary wins those stocks would be great to have, if Donald wins maybe not so much. I am basing this on both of their respective positions on 2nd Amendment, etc. I am thinking that people will flock to buy (as they have already been doing but even more than before) under the belief Hillary might try to limit what is available, and that if Donald wins, the industry is safe and no need to rush out and buy and the stocks sell off.

    Just wondering what you all think about this?

    Jim
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gun-stocks-obama-special-report-idUSKCN0VE1TG

     
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    If Hillary wins with House + Senate (slim chance) majority than I think Hillary could define her presidency with sweeping gun laws.

    If trump wins other than him sending few people to jail it will be status quo
     
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    Forget Clinton or Trump.

    Look to who owns them & the gun makers.
     
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    What is the point at looking at who owns them without changing the laws and the only people that can change them are the politicians.
    Currently almost anyone can get guns legally and the gun makers are not breaking any laws either.
     
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    Even if she wants to, how is she going to get it past the NRA bought and paid for politicians?
    Not going to happen. 'Murica
     
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    That would be the defining, part of the presidency wouldn't it.

    1. Basically she need to have the will to pursue it
    2. Start early - so senators and congressmen have four years to get over it
    3. (Hopefully not) but maybe there could be some incidents with the more nuttier trump supporter, like an assassination attempt?
     
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    The only realistic way they will have the ability to alter the 2nd Amendment is through Supreme Court rulings. The SC has the final say, even trumps (no pun intended) the prez and Congress. Hillary will appoint liberal SC judges who hate guns since it is likely there will be vacancies during the next 4 years, then eventually some cases will come through the SC and they will rule against 2nd A to some extent.

    Just my opinion.

    Jim
     
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    Attempting to Restricting gun ownership is so toxic divisive, its the kind of issue a President would be wise to pursue only in their final term, after the mid-term elections.

    A more indirect (but effective) route exists through the Supreme Court, where she can nominate anti-gun justices to the Supreme Court.

    Getting liberal justices appointed to the SC will also enhance her bargaining position in other areas.

    It's 'multiple waterfowl with one shot', which is an ironic choice of metaphor.
     
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    I dont think Hillary will be a two term President. Hence if she get a trifecta with Senate and Congress majority she could go for it, it is legacy making

    1. If GOP doesn't implode and can find a candidate not tainted by Trump than the next president will be a shoe in.
    2. Dont think Democrats would be brave enough to renominate her
     
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    We'll see what happens in November 2016 and November 2018.

    The last four single-term US Presidents were:
    1) George Bush Senior (lost to Bill Clinton)
    2) Jimmy Carter (lost to Ronald Reagan)
    3) Gerald Ford (never won a US general election, was Nixon's VP)
    4) Herbert Hoover (lost to Franklin D. Roosevelt; Crash of 1929 & Great Depression occurred during his term)

    So we can conclude, an incumbent POTUS rarely loses his/her mid-term unless he/she is:
    being blamed for serious economic adversity (Hoover, Great Depression)
    gets involved in an 'unforgivable' scandal (Ford pardoning Nixon)
    forced to compete against an unusually charismatic candidate (i.e. Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan)
     
  12. I don't think it's so much a matter of these people hating guns. More likely that they hate other people owning guns.
    Ultimately, I believe, it's all about unlimited power and control.
    As an historian, I am very familiar with the concept after studying the numerous past examples of this sort of thing.
    That was surely the reason why the second amendment was introduced.
     
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    Exactly, their founding fathers wanted the people to be able to protect themselves.....from them.
     
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    She doesn't have to get it through for it to send gun sales soaring, she just has to try.
     
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    She has plans.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bup1FKIdLNY[/youtube]

    But perhaps that's 'public' Hillary and 'private' Hillary won't do it. Hard to tell really.
     
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    That WikiLeak on gun ownership could be as big of a hit to her campaign as Donald's scandal last week.
     
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    More than one way to skin a cat.


     
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    I think companies involved with the MIC and domestic US security apparatus should be tracked and earmarked for buying when low. Palladium supply is dependent on the Russian Federation so miners may be worth a look. Rare earth minerals and silver as well. Silver is used in missiles.

    If Donald wins, the collapse will come and be blamed on him.
     

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