Debt Levy

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  1. Shaddam IV

    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    LOL

    But bet they still are.
    Wealth does that.
    And gold travel cards.
     
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    We are all living in a brief moment of history where we have a new ideology of taxing production rather than consumption and spending beyond any reasonable means of repayment. We no longer restrict Government spending via a Gold standard and we no longer restrict Government power by the Constitution.

    Wars were fought over less ........
     
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    Good.
    About fkn time they, too, got something in return for being part of the taxpaying community. :p
     
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    It is interesting reading the comments here and seeing the obvious bias to either the ALP or Liberals. People can be blinded by their loyalties and bias views that they fail to see the truth. I for one can't see much difference in both major parties. They are both equally incompetent and loyal to their own puppet masters. None have done me any favors and both are intent to steal from me as much money as they possibly can. I would like to see smaller govt across both Federal and State level. Reduce the wastage of tax payers funds. I have seen how the Govt can just fritter away tax payers money with not a care in the world. Phase out the majority of welfare, only the very vulnerable should receive assistance not this massive middle class welfare system we currently have and with Abbott trying to impose his PPL scheme on top it just make me sick to death of Political handouts and pork barreling. Again both major parties are guilty of this so stop saying one party is worse than the other.

    Stop the corporate handouts as well, we can't keep letting some of the biggest companies pay the least amount of tax.

    The Govt needs to be thinking of the future and encourage new developments and support industries that will create jobs and drive Australia's prosperity. At the moment we are heavily dependent on the export of commodities to keep us afloat, we need to be looking to diversify if we want to remain competitive. You only have to look at Argentina which has always been a commodities based economy and has been in a steady decline for a 100 years now.

    The other night I watching a story about how the CSIRO has developed this new sustainable feed for prawns, they are calling it a super food as it increases the the size of the prawns and keeps them healthier as well.
    The story can be found here;
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-11/csiro-develop-worlds-first-fish-free-prawn-food/5384678

    "The research cost about $10 million. We are very confident that this will generate a return on investment back to Australian taxpayers of many, many times the initial investment," CSIRO's Dr Nigel Preston said.
    This is the sort of thing we can do and do it well, but oh no the Govt decides that instead they will slash it's budget by 20%, and again it's not just Liberals who have reduced spending as apparently it's the 5th budget cut they have had to endure.
    Our best and brightest people will just move overseas to a country that embraces science and technology whilst we will be left eventually as a backwater.

    An extreme lack of vision in this country, instead everyone has their hand out for freebies and too busy dulling the senses with alcohol and drugs.

    Sorry for the rant, feel better already though.. :lol:
     
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    The CSIRO, the BOM, and the ABC are all politicized to the ALP party line.

    Any reductions to their taxpayer funding is fully deserved, though I doubt TA's courage in doing so.


    OC
     
  8. mmm....shiney!

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    This is an amusing thread, I'm struggling to comprehend how anyone can support the policies of the Labor Party.

    And I'm equally baffled how anyone can align themselves with the policies of the Liberal Party.

    And the rest (Palmer) are tarred with the same brush.

    People, don't you get it? It doesn't matter whether we have errol's blue team or red team, eventually politicians run out of other people's money.

    I think we have probably arrived.
     
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    That is classic and so true!!!
     
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    Abbot just a egotist and a bully and will be deposed
    by someone not much better soon.
     
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    .......says he with a fervent prayer.
     
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    Yeah, who needs things like wireless internet, Aerogard, the influenza vaccine, polymer banknotes, solar hot water heaters, pest-free grain exports and satellites?
     
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    satellites?


    I thought the Russians had something to do with them.


    ......and we have been shoveling money at the CSIRO for many decades, a pay off is the least we can expect, NOT propaganda!
     
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    Anti-Government funded CSIRO anti-CSIRO
    Anti-Government funded CSIRO anti-science
    Anti-Government funded ABC anti-ABC
    Anti-Government funded ABC anti-biased journalism
    Anti-Government funded BoM = anti-chocolate biscuits with any meetings involving the Director and anti-2hr "team building" morning teas between 1-3 times per week (or at least it did when I had the pleasure of co-locating with them in their head office for a year :p )
     
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    It just exposes the 'logic' behind politicians telling a lie.

    For instance, If as a politician you lie about enacting unpopular "policy 'A' " ;

    The people that do support policy A and know you're lying about not enacting "Policy A" (i.e. you fully intend to enact it after the election) are going to vote for you anyway
    The people that don't support policy A' and know you're lying, were never going to vote for you anyway, so there's no punishment from them
    And the people that believe your lie are a bonus
    (they may not vote for you next time... but if you didn't lie you wouldn't have gotten their vote in the first place)

    There's no punishment for lying as a politician... you just get the free bonus of those gullible enough to believe your lies.

    Just wait for Abbott to enact Labour Reforms (Work Choices) :)
     
  16. Big A.D.

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    Guess who helped developed the technology used to talk to the ones built after Sputnik 1?

    The Russians sure weren't sharing their technology at the time.

    The patents the CSIRO were granted for developing WiFi brought it half a billion dollars in royalties.

    Also, we got wireless internet out of it.


    Hmm...I wonder how many people are accessing the this forum via a wireless internet connection to slag off the CSIRO...
     
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    Just out of curiosity, who ended up getting the half billion?
     
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    If Malcolm Turnbull was in charge, it would have been developed at half the cost and generated twice the royalties! But you would have to come out from your house to the kerb to get near to the WiFi node to get a signal.
     
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    So those $$$$$ got spent too?

    It's immaterial how much in royalties the CSIRO has brought us if the pollies have blown it.

    It also strikes me as being rather odd that a government can grant a patent to an organisation that it funds.
     
  20. Big A.D.

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    The government gets it.

    About half their budget comes from them commercialising their discoveries and inventions themselves, but any serious revenue gets transferred to the government as a windfall.

    For this reason, the CSIRO is always going to look like it costs money. The cash it brings in isn't accounted for very well and the benefits it creates are socialized and aren't really counted at all.


    And no, the people who did the actual work on the WiFi project didn't get massive bonuses. They got an average salary, a few certificates saying "thank you" and if you asked any one of them they'd say they were perfectly happy with the arrangement and that the CSIRO should continue to get enough funding to do world class research and development.
     

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