Covid 19 - Health Advice and Summary

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  1. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I thought it might be an idea to collate the scattered health advice here.

    (Please preface any quack cures with a warning)

    1. Suggestion that a healthy liver will assist you fighting this one - a!ong with a generally healthy body of course.

    2. Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) has some compounds that assist recovery, but reports are that TCM practitioners are generally sold out. If you have more information I'd like to know more.

    3. Vitamin C in large doses are suggested. Personally I'm loading up daily on Vitamin D, Zinc, B complex and Selenium. (Google if you're interested in why these).

    4. Not available generally but the Prep regime which stops HIV transmission is reported as efficacious.

    5. , Japanese-made flu drug favipiravir (also known as Avigan) has been shown to be effective in both reducing the duration of the COVID-19 virus in patients and to have improved the lung conditions of those who received treatment with the drug.( https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/18/j...navirus-treatment-in-chinese-clinical-trials/)

    6. The latest flu vaccination cocktail has just been released so I'd get down to your local clinic asap for this one. It's unrelated to Covid19 but best to be well protected and recovered from the vaccination earlier than later.
     
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    Traditional Thai herb, Fah Talai Jone is worth a peek at, & is recommended by the Thai government health authorities for the treatment of Covid-19. I keep a few bottles of it around the house for flu treatment here in Perth ( copy & paste a description of it's worth below )

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    The herb Fah Talai Jone (Andrographis Paniculata) is used since ancient times in Ayurveda and Siddha medicine. In Thai households it is also well known as a very effective and important natural medicine. The herb contains substances that have analgesic effects (pain killer), antithrombotic (prevents blood clots), hypoglycemic (low blood sugar levels), anti-inflammatory and antipyretic (fever-reducing) effects. Another of its important physiological effect is to stop the uncontrolled cell growth caused by viruses and therefore it has considerable success in improving the condition of patients with HIV. The herb is also used for the treatment of viral infections of the upper respiratory tract, after infectious hepatitis, conditions after poisoning with drugs and other chemicals, as well as in various forms of dyspepsia. For its strong anti-spirochetal action it’s also used against leptospirosis, relapsing fever, Treponema Dentali and Treponema pallidum.
     
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    In summary, afaik:

    There is no good evidence for anything beyond prevention, that is to not expose yourself to risky situations, wash your hands, not touch your face especially your mouth, nose and eyes unless you have disinfected your hands. It isn’t a big deal now for most, but it may well escalate within the next few months.

    It is worth remembering you probably are not going to die from this. You are probably not going to be so sick you will be hospitalised either, though this might happen and it’s not a small risk, aggravated by the chance you will be in a Costco style line for oxygen. Bottom line is you may well get it, almost even odds and there’s a fair chance you will get sick and it may suck.

    But the probability is you will get better within a few weeks.

    Beyond that, there is nothing solid. It’s experimental. This is not a conspiracy against vitamins or TCM. Vitamins and zinc are rarely harmful with some exceptions. But you are fooling yourself to think it’s a sure bet.

    I would have thought any time spent in the land of silver and gold means you have been exposed to many people who boast about how they made this call and that, legends in their own lunchtime and the turf isn’t much different in healthcare outside of staid orthodoxy. It’s the Wild West and that includes vitamin pushers. The Pauling stuff pushed here is a good example. Even though there are clear miraculous case reports, it isn’t generalised. You can see that in what people here are crediting as good evidence. It’s just not the case, despite a small number of clearly excellent outcomes. I’ll be taking my vitamins like anyone but that isn’t advice. It’s a cold appreciation that there is a small chance I’m that awesome case report, mindful that I’m probably not.
     
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    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Would you have a recommended online seller?

    Mind you, elsewhere, there is this report:

    PRACHINBURI — Health experts on Tuesday said a herbal medicine currently flying off the shelves across the country will not help protect against the novel strain of coronavirus.

    Thais are stocking up on fah talai jone, which is proven to the ward off common cold, while health officials said the herb will not provide any benefit in combating the coronavirus. Still, experts’ warnings did not stop shoppers from hoarding stocks of fah talai jone all over the country.

    “We can’t say that it cures Covid-19,” said a person answering the phone at the pharmacy inside the Chao Phraya Abhaibhubejhr Hospital in Prachinburi, which produces the most popular brand of fah talai jone.

    “Perhaps people who are buying just want to strengthen their immune system just in case, and don’t want to get infections of any kind,” the person added.


    Since Monday, the hospital’s herbal shop has been crowded with queues of people buying multiple bottles of the herb

    https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news...-herb-classified-as-useless-against-covid-19/
     
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    If you want that, the ingredient is Andrographis paniculata.

    You might find it in Australia in some places. It’s another miracle catch all respiratory panacea
    “this popular Thai antipyretic and anti-inflammatory agent for the treatment of colds and lung diseases. It is used for sore throat, flu, SARS, acute respiratory infections, bronchitis, pneumonia, as well as in the treatment of asthma. When used Fah Talai Jone breathing becomes freer. The drug thins phlegm, removes dry throat, lowers the temperature.
    https://thai-voyage.com/en/celebnye...sredstva/kapsuly-fah-talai-jone-tv000410.html

    But wait, there’s more!
    That right folks, it is “one of the most popular medicinal plants used traditionally for the treatment of array of diseases such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, ulcer, leprosy, bronchitis, skin diseases, flatulence, colic, influenza, dysentery, dyspepsia and malaria for centuries in Asia, America and Africa continents”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032030/

    Remember to swallow that whole. We take cash and credit cards!
     
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    As I said worth a peek. It's up to you the individual to look into your own research and complancey where or what the herb can do for you. It works for me. And that's all I need.
     
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    It could be great or the TP of naturopathy shops.

    One thing is likely, there will be a lot a people claiming they have the fix and the cash registers will ring. The sector might be one of the few bright spots in the market. One to watch.
     
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    Apparently covid 19 will be cured by toilet paper & idiots
     
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    Then the danger has passed?
     
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    Anyone who has taken care of enough pets/animals in their life will understand that the mind is more important for well being than novel food and vitamin sources. It also helps to unertand biochemistry and the processes the body uses for energy and waste removal. These are complex topics. If drinking pond scum results in you getting a better sleep then the sleep and peace of mind will do more for your health... I will exit this topic as it's one of few that infuriates me.
     
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    Removing stress from your life is the best thing you can do. Stay relaxed, having sex once a day will help. Go for walk or jog in the park and get fresh air and sun light. Watch something funny and have a laugh, people are too uptight today. Keep your gut healthy, limit alcohol, eat good quality food and again most important remove stress.
     
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    There must be a tax we can pay to cure COVID-19..... or does that only apply to climate change?
     
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    Chloroquine is being talked about and use in some places. China has done a small study (100) people.
     
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    Vitamin D and C are the ticket.
    Get more sunshine at the recommended levels so the body can produce the vitamin D you need.
    The Liver performs over 500 functions; get your liver in good order.

    Don't be dumbed down by some who say that even healthy people die with the flu or that the Spanish flu killed perfectly healthy people. You have a lot better chance of recovering if your liver, kidneys, pancreas, skin, heart, and thyroid are in good order.
    You can help your body cope by eating food that won't inflame your body or cause damage to your organs.
    If you can, avoid sugar and a high carbohydrate diet. Sugar and carbs, inflame the body and stacks on the weight. Avoid hydrogenated vegetable oils as they are bad for your heart.
     
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    I have just been informed that a Japanese drug "Avigan" is effective against Covid-19. 200 infected patients were on a trial for 4 days with no side effects & they have had a 91% improved rate! Right now China is accelerating production of the drug. Good news
     
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    Awesome, thanks!
     
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    no new cases in China and they opening more and more factories.
    they closed their last quarantine hospital about a 5 days ago.
    things looking up

    a bunch of drugs already on the market to treat other illnesses are looking like they have the ability to kill the virus.
     
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    100% correct-much better than any medication ...
     
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