Coronavirus information for non-alarmists

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  1. Ipv6Ready

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    Seasonal flu has a mortality rate of 0.2%
    16,500,000 divided by 35,000 death (percentage for those that sought medical advice)
    1 death per 500

    Coronavirus in China has a death rate of 2.7%
    41,009 infected divided by 1100 death
    1 death per 37

    Don’t want to alarm you but it is not the same
     
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    I'm in the target population of old people likely to go down, so I'm prepping my personal Book of the Dead with Will, instructions etc. Isolation at a country location isn't feasible but if a pandemic hits it might be an option if my country friends aren't too frightened to entertain a city dweller.
     
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    Your comment made me think....there's a subset of the target population who maybe better prepared than most to "bug out" if the SHTF....The "Grey Nomads". They are prepped for the road and know the isolated spots in the outback they can go to.

    Lets see if there's a spike in caravan / RV sales and prices in the future.

    [​IMG]
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Two days without battered flake and potato “cakes” and they’ll be hightailing it to the nearest town.
     
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    You do not have to move very far out from the city/suburbs to find some isolated areas.
    About a month ago I moved to SPENCER NSW. Very small population and not far from Sydney/Gosford as the crow flies. Good size 2 b/r house $250 pw right on the Hawkesbury River , no town water or sewer , just in the process of getting chickens and starting up a vegie garden and also fish and crabs out of the river. Public fresh water spring just up the road if the water tanks run dry.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=map+spencer+nsw&t=braveed&ia=maps&iaxm=maps
     
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  7. Ipv6Ready

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    Was talking to a friend and he says the numbers of death out of China is now meaningless.

    Not in the sense of cover up, but he said it is unlikely there are enough technicians in China to do the sheer number of test to rule out the potentially infected.

    Dead patients are likely now no longer being tested and patients who have died before testing returned might be filed away for testing after the crisis.

    Also chances are many patients are turning up at the hospital at very late stages with acute secondary sickness, so are likely treated for pneumonia etc Especially since people with coronavirus don’t die from it but secondary complications.therefore testing these patients are less time sensitive and can be done later.

    he said his major hospital in north shore Sydney combined might order few thousand tests in a day, but if suddenly had to do 100,000 a day there would be chaos let alone 1,000,000 test a day

    the one thing we know for sure is that the Chinese Doctors are so scared of this virus that they demanding the Authorities (and convincing them) to keep regional and city wide blockades....
     
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  8. Jason1

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    Ive posted the flu's in general and in a first world country, the likes of swine flu had rates over 10% mortality in the first year and was far more contagious than Coronavirus.
    Bird flu had a mortality rate as high as 60% and still has a mortality rate of 30% in china this season, thankfully while a super high mortality rate which seems impressive, it is less contagious.
    Those rates of mortality on previous epidemics like the swine flu epidemic are obviously down now as once they were understood those rates dropped dramatically.
    Coronavirus would suck to have obviously being a new virus, Im not doubting that, However it is pretty damn clear by most Medical scientists the infectious nature of the virus is not in the same league as influenza, which is a really big factor when deciding if something will be pandemic.
    just like Swine flu and other new viruses, those mortality rates drop quickly once understood, 2% is not a high mortality rate really, there are thousands of viruses with higher mortality rates than that. Coronavirus really doesn't have that high of a mortality rate for such a new virus, not compared to when swine flu which was a far bigger epidemic than the coronavirus so far in the same period of time.

    if this virus was even in the same league as the 1919 Spanish flu pandemic, you wouldnt be looking at only 41000 people infected, you would be talking millions especially in an area that is locked down with people living like sardines who cant fart with out the neighbor being able to smell it.

    And your not alarming me, your alarming your self, Its easy to find out the result, we dredge up this thread in years time and see.
    no doubt numbers will rise, will it get to the numbers seen by the run of the mill Influenza even though its mortality rate is currently higher than the regular old influenza? I doubt it let alone becoming pandemic to the point of Spanish flu pandemic.
     
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    Nice little spot is Spencer.
    Does the bloke who runs the local cafe still have that gigantic speaker system parked across the road pumping music?
     
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    Trump pumped another 40 billion and we have record stock markets gains again today. Nothing to see here. Everything is fine.
     
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    Trump? Are you referring to the Fed's overnight repos?
     
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    That's what I said. One in the same.
    Hes clamoring for negative interest rates so the middle class can be rescued.
     
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    Negative interest, billions in debt created daily, no debt ceiling or spending limits.
    They are doing great!
     
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    Oi Trumpy! Crash the markets for the boiz!
     
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    No music at all these days. The shop is for sale.
     
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    242 new deaths and 14,840 new cases

    Best place to be in the world via stats is to be in Africa, not a single case even though a there is no travel restriction (either way) and usually have 700,000 monthly travelers
     
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    Because they're not testing their yet.
     
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    their hot weather could reduce the spread...
    so their number would depend on Wuhan visitors
    the rest of people are not hot
     
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    What does that matter :) ... Still the only continent without Coronavirus
     
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