Coronavirus information for non-alarmists

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by mmm....shiney!, Feb 1, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. sterling-nz

    sterling-nz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Got gloved and mask to go to the pharmacy today so i figured ill go get more biscuits and lollies for the kids at the supermarket and got told ONLY TWO OF EACH.
    Not 2 of each type of lollies but 2 bag of lollies no matter what type.
    The biscuits was the same , does not matter what type of biscuits you get the max was 2 TOTAL.
    I am so glad we had shit sorted before all the crap.
    Haven't told the missus yet but some poor chick had her perhaps 4 month baby there looking at the jars of food that she was only allowed 6 of and when talking to her she said she could not afford the large packs so i gave her $60 so she could get them instead of the little jars.
    I feel really bad for people with babies at the moment.
    When our youngest was o the bottle we had that melamine or botulism scare and that was bad enough. i cant recall exactly what it was but it meant we returned our current formula.
     
  2. Holdfast

    Holdfast Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2009
    Messages:
    9,489
    Likes Received:
    716
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Australia
    :)
    Well done sterling-nz, that's very kind of you. :)
     
    sterling-nz likes this.
  3. openeyes

    openeyes Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    975
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Canberra
    Yes agreed. True sense of community where we help each other to get through this.
     
    Holdfast and sterling-nz like this.
  4. sterling-nz

    sterling-nz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    It is nice but secretly selfish.
    I have not been enjoying my life for various reasons of late and it turns out helping people makes me feel good.
    I hope it is good for them but i know it is good for me because it makes me feel useful ,and sadly since the kids started school and the missus scuttle my business i have been feeling like shit and useless.
    Turns out i like feeling useful and that has been a feeling i have lacked lately and it really takes its toll.
    Sorry for the sob story and i guess many here may not understand but when the kids do not need you as much and they were my work it gets really shitty.
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2020
    STKR, Silver260, openeyes and 2 others like this.
  5. Roswell Crash Survivor

    Roswell Crash Survivor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2011
    Messages:
    2,508
    Likes Received:
    318
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Zeta Reticuli
  6. sgbuyer

    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    May 25, 2018
    Messages:
    2,218
    Likes Received:
    1,268
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Singapore
    Has anyone given a thought on the need to prepare the stuff needed for self-treatment at home, in case there are no hospital beds? What are the stuff to prepare? If being infected means having to serve home quarantine, it will be necessary to prepare for it way beforehand. What I can think of.

    1. Manuka honey for sore throat.
    2. Coconut water for hydration.
    3. Paracetamol for headaches - I read that aspirin and ibuprofen are dangerous as they can increase the ACE2??
    4. Eucalyptus creams and oils for inhalation.
    5. Vitamin C.
    6. Elderberry syrup for antiviral.
    7. Digital thermometer.

    Hope anyone with some medical knowledge can share your thoughts.
     
    madaw1, Holdfast and sterling-nz like this.
  7. Silver Soul

    Silver Soul Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,932
    Likes Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Thailand & WA
    Honey, lemon, lime, ginger, galangll, lemon grass garlic, chillies,

    A must have. silver colloidal. That's a bloddy good medicine box
     
    madaw1 and sgbuyer like this.
  8. Silver Soul

    Silver Soul Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,932
    Likes Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Thailand & WA
    And chia seed. The forgotten super food. Try a little onion with that too
     
    madaw1, Holdfast and sgbuyer like this.
  9. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,422
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Australia
    I'd count myself as non-alarmist, but from now I'm shopping with a mask on.

    So thanks for the list sgbuyer, a few items I'd not considered, so my mask and I are shopping tomorrow.
     
    sterling-nz and sgbuyer like this.
  10. JohnnyBravo300

    JohnnyBravo300 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2019
    Messages:
    1,365
    Likes Received:
    1,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We ate through a bunch of our food stores when we had this in December.
    My wife and I watched Hoarders on youtube and some other waste of time shows.
    It was a long three weeks I can tell ya.

    I was never worried that I would die but a few times I had mentioned that it might be easier.
    The flu always sucks and this covid19 is no easier. You'll be fine tho.
     
    Holdfast likes this.
  11. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Messages:
    8,758
    Likes Received:
    1,965
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Pulau Alor ;)
    need a lung flute to clear the lungs (but people with COPD can't blow)

    [​IMG]
    there are some vegetables to reduce the heat of the lungs

    nebuliser machine to apply some opium (prescription required)

    [​IMG]
     
  12. sterling-nz

    sterling-nz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    We have iv kits available here and intubation kits here x2 with one adult and 1 child sized bag.
    It has been many years since i have had to intubate anyone and NEVER on someone i have a personal relationship with.
    This would only happen here if everything fell to pieces because it would have to be administered manually and it is labour intensive .
    I am aware of a family in Croatia years ago that kept a father alive for 2 days until he was able to breath again and they took turns on the bag.
    We also have just run of the mill pulse ox monitors .
    The goal in this house is to keep well and avoid the infection in the hope it can be killed off by starving it.
    I think we are past that point so the next best thing as we see it is to avoid catching it until the hospitals are freed up again in case we need specialist care.
    We are being super anal about infection control , one car is considered dirty and this is what i use for going to a shop or dropping off supplies i have been trading for to give the girls at our local pharmacy.
    I even change and shower when i get home and clothes got straight to cleaning and the kids keep away until its sorted.
    Stuff that can be wiped with alcohol IS, and any supplies that can not happen to is popped away in a cupboard for a week before use.
    If nothing else it is really good practice for when something far more deadly attacks us (and it will).
    SO many people are just not taking it seriously.
    Today im taking my girls in the clean van to see their mother and talk to her through a window while i am delivering her some gloves and masks as she is an essential service worker and they are not getting proper PPE.
    The girls at the pharmacy i have been supplying told me yesterday their GOVERNMENT supply of PPE consisted of 3 surgical masks and 1 gown.
    WHAT A F'n JOKE.
     
    Pendragon and sgbuyer like this.
  13. sterling-nz

    sterling-nz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    As much as i adore President Trump he is really out of his depth here i feel.
    The things he is saying are what id expect from someone on the street (a reason i like him in the first place).
    When it comes to this SHTF economic and human life disaster i wish he would think a little more before he speaks on some things.
    That turd Acosta asked him yesterday.
    Acosta: "what do you say to the people who are scared about this situation.
    Trump:" i say YOU are a very bad reporter"
    Gota love the guy:)
     
  14. heartastack

    heartastack Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2010
    Messages:
    1,007
    Likes Received:
    428
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Idaho
    well tharr she blows!
    Less than 100 cases state wide and some muppet at work tests positive.
    Now we’re all going through the ringer. They are only testing people presenting with fevers or worse though, so it’s probably everywhere..


    Give me some of that nebulised morphine
     
    sterling-nz likes this.
  15. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Messages:
    8,758
    Likes Received:
    1,965
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Pulau Alor ;)
    morphine have long term weaken the body, so for daily usage, life worldly shorten
     
  16. openeyes

    openeyes Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    975
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Canberra
    The numbers you are seeing in the papers are no more than 10% or actual cases. Firstly there are people who have few symptoms - they will not get tested in more cases and they will be spreaders.
    Then we have to realise it takes days from when someone gets infected to when the positive result is recorded.
    Lastly the testing criteria are very limited. Many people who are surely now getting infected are outside the testing criteria and thus will not be tested.

    So bad luck - I really dont think so. If you are at work, if your children are at school, if you are in regular contact with unknown people or people not in your close circle, if you are going to places and touching things that many other people touch (e.g. petrol bowser, atm touch screens etc) - then you are at a much higher risk of contracted COVID19. Its a 1 in 10 lottery. 9 out of 10 win and the rest will not be so lucky.

    Take care of yourself.
     
    sterling-nz and heartastack like this.
  17. openeyes

    openeyes Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    975
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Canberra
    Nice tight protocol. Fortunately your close circle either understands the risks or has to comply (children). So good that you are able to assist your local pharmacy. My focus has been on quarantine. So far I only leave my farm once a week. I also don't wear outside clothes in the house. As things progress it will be interesting to see how I can stop going out at all. Should be able to do three months if necessary.
     
    sterling-nz and sgbuyer like this.
  18. willrocks

    willrocks Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    6,704
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
  19. ParanoidAndroid

    ParanoidAndroid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2015
    Messages:
    806
    Likes Received:
    422
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    S.E.Q
    Silver260, willrocks and openeyes like this.
  20. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Messages:
    8,758
    Likes Received:
    1,965
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Pulau Alor ;)
    Mustn’t forget the meow meow. (Spanish Flu, 1918)
    [​IMG]
     
    willrocks likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page