Coronavirus Airborne World Wide Recession ?

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  1. openeyes

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    Thailand would be such a place where control will not be possible and testing will be unlikely. Time will show us the result.
     
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    Workers in a Chinese factory post-Wuhan.

    Prevention for adults is very simple. Just make everyone wear a mask, don't touch their eyes and faces, and wash their hands all the time.

    Question: Do you have a mask?

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    Perhaps the burqa (with inserted protective filters will become a required dress standard to protect from cross infections. Muslims would no doubt find that somewhat humorous.

    Or perhaps we will develop infectious discrimination and build gated communities with 14 day isolation entry points.

    Our future housing may look quite different.
     
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    the virus can ID your chinese DNA
    if you do not have them, highly unlikely to mop in the lungs . at best a carrier and not a potential patient
     
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    The targeting of Chinese DNA is a myth. Even if ethnicity is a factor, it is a minor one, gender, age and health condition is more important. Gender especially. The female sex is invulnerable to this virus. The virus targets older males.

    Victim 42 is a 39 year old Bangladeshi male and has entered ICU. Without treatment, the disease is potentially fatal for anyone above the age of 30 and male.
     
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    The incidence is not clear, partly because people are not tested if not very unwell (even though they are infectious), so they are sent back home and also, people are being turned away from hospital because there are no beds. This also means we don't really know the true death rate.

    I read that in one hospital ICU, the staff were not gowned in protective clothing because of short supply and most then became sick. This is an indication of how infectious the disease is.

    Maybe it will be a month before most people become aware of the implications. It is serious enough to contemplate that you may not get a hospital bed unless you require oxygen (even if you need it 2 days later). You don't want to be in that position. You'll also be taking the virus back home to people who may then be exposed to your infection.

    There are a very limited number of critical care facilities and beds as well, equipment and trained staff. A significant number of casualties will most likely rapidly overwhelm capacity.

    One Chinese ICU doctor gave an interview talking about how he had to turn away a recovering pregnant woman because the family ran out of money to afford ECMO, even though she showed signs of improvement. She died after it was switched off.

    ECMO is used in heart surgery and there would be little capacity to scale it up in the event of a big demand due to severe coronavirus infection. It may also lead to a situation where people die from heart related issues because they can't have a bypass operation because the ECMO is being used to treat coronavirus victims.

    Given that much of the Chinese economy is partially shutdown and the implications of a highly transmissible disease, as well as the window of opportunity to prepare, it seems best to prepare now.

    Back before 2010, stackers were also often preppers. It looks like a good time to lay in supplies of food, water and household items. You really don't want to be in a supermarket or supply store should this virus become very widespread, because not only will that be inconvenient, you are also potentially exposed to infected people. Given what happened to that HK family where 9 out of 19 people were infected at a social gathering, that is not an easy situation.
     
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    https://www.bitchute.com/video/gEGuCDlkCBc/

    A good example above of what to expect. You do not want to be in that position as the supply chain breaks down. It is exactly the sort of situation preppers prepare to avoid.

    If you need to use a car as well, even though oil prices should fall, it may be best to avoid potential exposure at the bowser by purchasing jerry cans and fuel in anticipation.

    Worst case, you have overprepared and now have to use things you would anyway.

    The other thing is in normal times, usually there are half-price specials at the supermarket. Do not expect this when demand is fierce.
     
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    Australia's economy, being highly dependent on China for its income through mineral commodities and tertiary education, may be hit very hard. Domestically, a lot of cafes may see their market shrink like a Twisties pack in the oven.
     
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    its a girl virus :)
     
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    word
     
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    how to engaged in a fight when the opponent can be the contagious killer, just by the touch, your life fly
    in such a situation, the best is to get as far away as possible
    as the situation in Wuhan, car transportation is very limited
    phone apps could be blocked, only normal phone may be working
    people did not learn much from SARS
    what can be included are mask and alcohol wash
    food and water is the most basic, toilet paper are crazy

    what have these people been doing? just before CNY, they would have bought sufficient paper anyway
     
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    If you are in China and "just" have a fever.... it would be like playing russian roulette to go to hospital to be checked....

    If you don't have the virus, chances are many people around you have it and are coughing all over the place.
     
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    that situation were real bad, the people visited 5-6 hospitals and chances are real bad for all
    you really want to avoid hospitals at all costs
    unless you are forced and escorted to the ambulance to go in there
    like we have here, cases identified as highly likely sent to hospitals from GPs, later confirmed ; may be different places are different
     
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science...mp7JHCxp8_oxSH_PoPsnQABO5ddBXhx5ykufBUp7Nemdg
    World must prepare for biological weapons that target ethnic groups based on genetics, says Cambridge University

    https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/russian-...YQOQraWkFk9pI_XWKDZ6a-NN4TxNoMvN65tcV9JRsx-m8
    Russian scientists believe America created the Wuhan coronavirus to sabotage China

    https://news.yahoo.com/russia-think-coronavirus-u-biological-003300817.html
    Some in Russia Think the Coronavirus Is a U.S. Biological Weapon

    https://geopolitics.co/2020/02/09/c...-O6CTYqaWG_ZCQrsKcfrk1L-KPl6AFB3Sn65b6ndFdsis


    Coronavirus: US Biological Warfare Against Russia and China
     
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    Those bed sheets are worth life
     
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    That is very unfortunate
     
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