Cobar (CCU)

Discussion in 'Stocks & Derivatives' started by gelxi, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. gelxi

    gelxi New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2011
    Messages:
    223
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Let's hope we are now seeing a double bottom forming in both silver and CCU. Fingers crossed!
     
  2. SilverSanchez

    SilverSanchez Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,653
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Melbourne
    What is occuring to AYN and CCU is regretable for all invested. I am not currently invested in either.
    BUT

    The FACT that smaller silver miners are starting to struggle to make a profit is bullish evidence for the future of the silver price. So my hope for CCU investors is that the company is able to stay afloat untill silver recovers.
     
  3. PradoEagle

    PradoEagle Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Perth, Australia
    I am surprised that this topic has not kicked off again given the rally in the share price.
    Who's in?
    PE
     
  4. Scyb

    Scyb Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Messages:
    821
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    18

    I think GP singlehandedly caused the rally with his 'small' buy

    I wanted to follow suit and buy some but now its over priced for the cureent spot :(
     
  5. SilverSanchez

    SilverSanchez Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,653
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Has the issues been resolved?
    They have inflated their share supply, and not increased resource
    What is their all in cash costs? There are too many unclear points about how this company will go in the next 6-12months.
    The risks lower on better companies with more firm data points, its still risk untill the quarterly comes out
     
  6. MyNamesNotBen

    MyNamesNotBen New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    NT, Australia
    Im still holding a quarter of the shares I originally bought. CCU needs to go over 70c for me to make back my losses though:p. I wont be buying anymore CCU anytime soon, I lost all faith in this company when they NEEDED to go to the market to raise capital just to keep the company afloat AFTER becoming a producer. I know the falling silver price, oversized ore etc but there really isn't any excuse for such terrible management.
     
  7. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2009
    Messages:
    17,648
    Likes Received:
    581
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Intraday low of 13c today
     
  8. OneGoldKiwi

    OneGoldKiwi New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Any views after the quarterly activities and financial statement. (other than the obvious price consolidation)
     
  9. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2009
    Messages:
    17,648
    Likes Received:
    581
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Back to 18c
     
  10. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2009
    Messages:
    17,648
    Likes Received:
    581
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok, might be an interesting day with the $1 jump in silver.
     
  11. J-Money

    J-Money New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2012
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Regretting not taking up my entitlement now!
     
  12. AngloSaxon

    AngloSaxon Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,779
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Sydney
    Heres hoping this is a turnaround for the security price.
     
  13. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2009
    Messages:
    17,648
    Likes Received:
    581
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Intra-day high of 23c, closed at 21.5c.
     
  14. trew

    trew Active Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,653
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Melbern
    Any sign of a profit yet ?

    As in the company making a profit from it's operations ?
     
  15. GoldenEgg

    GoldenEgg Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    Messages:
    230
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    18
    no, silver still too low at this stage
     
  16. finicky

    finicky Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Dreamworld
    Most aren't buying a company in this part of the ASX to get a share of profits.
     
  17. SilverSanchez

    SilverSanchez Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,653
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Has this company published what their real costs are?

    All this money talk and ounces talk but not dollar cost talk....
    What is their rate of losing money on production?
     
  18. finicky

    finicky Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Dreamworld
    Proceeding according to an old script for this 'sector' of the ASX
    Company is skint again after cap raising in June Qtr and offering excuses
    Keep paying them those $160,000-$470,000 salaries.


    Cashflow for
    Quarter ended
    30 June 2013

    A/ Proceeds from issues of shares 12,275,000

    B/ Cash at end of quarter 6,084,000

    C/ Loan facilities:
    Available 17,905,000
    Used 17,620,000

    D/ Estimated cash outflows for next quarter
    Total
    17,529,000

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    Magna Bridging Loan
    Sept 30th

    Excuses:

    "Notwithstanding the improved September quarter performance" (hahaha)...

    1/the ramp up has been slower than expected
    2/abnormally high rainfall
    3/continued operating difficulties with the ball mill
    4/impact of the lower silver price

    ..."necessitated a further funding injection for working capital"
     
  19. Silver Frost

    Silver Frost New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    280
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Australia
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    to continue...."the rich pockets we have been mining have almost been exhausted and ....the silver on SS can be got for less than CCU are getting theirs
     
  20. finicky

    finicky Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Dreamworld
    If anyone here is still in this stock do you feel in control or helpless? There's the option to consider of taking control and taking the loss. Your remnant capital could then be redeployed - pick the right replacement stock and you might not only recoup the loss, it's not impossible you could turn it to profit. Also the loss you take here would be a CGT loss asset for a future tax return.

    Looking at the monthly volatility chart - it takes very heavy downside volatility for a price to make a monthly close outside the lower Bollinger band. The stock must recover quickly to be ok in my book. With CCU the price bars have stepped outside twice - in Nov '12 and Apr '13. The price looked to be recovering after the April instance but now appears to be fizzling. At 11.5c CCU is currently below the close of that outlier April bar (15c) so the market situation has deteriorated since that extreme event.

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page