Source: http://www.news.com.au/business/wor...o-shopping-bills/story-e6frfm9r-1226425813918 Yep, it just keeps getting better.....
Where I live we have single bin recycling, which means all rubbish in one bin and the recycling is done by the city at their recycling sites. Since my bottles are already being recycled I assume I will get my 10c back automatically?
Must say, that video doesn't put up a very strong argument against recycling. It doesn't even quote any useful figures. Until I see comprehensive evidence that proves otherwise I still think that recycling is more beneficial than dumping it all and starting over each time. For one, we are not using up all our limited natural resources. I can't see how recycling aluminium cans for example can consume more energy than extracting bauxite from the ground, processing it to alumina, smelting and refining provided the recycling system is located close by and uses efficient collecting and recycling processes. Maybe this just indicates that there are further leaps that can be made towards planning these networks and developing the systems??
We already have 10c deposits on cans, tetra boxes, cartons, even those little yakult bottles. Basically save them all and don't put in the rubbish and take them to the recycling centre and all should be sweet. You shouldn't lose anything more than time. And if you do have the time then simply raid everyone elses recycling bin come bin day and start stacking - plastics!! I took ours for two months to the recycling depot. They sorted them all .. I did bugger all except transport them there. Brought back almost 20.00 from something that took me half an hour.
The claims by "industry experts" have been shown to be complete bulls**t. They claim that changing their packaging will be a very costly exercise and they'll have to pass the cost on to consumers. What does this massively expensive process involve? 10c REFUND AT COLLECTION DEPOTS WHEN SOLD IN S.A. That is the change they need to make to their packaging: removing the words "When Sold In South Australia". And Coca-Cola made this argument publicly at the same time as they were running their "Share A Coke" promotion where they created 150 "standard" variations of the Coke label and operated a series of kiosks where people could create their own personalised Coke label. Like this one: The industry is full of s**t on this one.
You must have missed this bit: "The proposed increase is a 10c levy or deposit per container, which would be refunded if the consumer returned the empty bottle...
So if you go out on a friday night to the pub and have a couple of Tooheys Extra Dry stubbies you think people are going to carry around empties the whole night? lol come on Looks like another revenue raiser for the Government , like the alcopops tax.They never repealed that one even after it was shown kids were just buying straight whiskey and cola seperately and mixing it themselves at a far cheaper price.$24 for a 4 pack of CC dry and cola give me a break.
Yeah, so if you put your empties in the recycling bin, you won't be any worse off financially. C'mon now. If the empty bottle is worth 10c and you chuck it in the gutter, how is that someone else's fault that you've "lost" money? It's worth 10c, you know it's worth 10c and you've chosen to throw it away. South Australia has had this scheme running for 35 years. They have an 80+% recycling rate which is about double the recycling rate in states that don't have a container deposit scheme. Roughly 9 out of 10 Australians support a national container deposit scheme but we don't have one yet because our politicians are acting as the beverage industry's bitches, so yeah, please go in to bat for Coca-Cola and Schweppes and the rest of them because those billion dollar multi-nationals really have your best interests at heart and are, like, totally not trying to avoid responsibility for the effect their packaging has on our environment at all.
Source? I'm not batting for anyone but myself. I'm sick of getting slugged with new taxes. Why do the watermelons use industry and corporations as their fall guy for everything? The consumer buys the product, the consumer then owns the empty container, disposal also becomes the consumers responsibility IMHO.
Boomerang Alliance poll conducted by EMRS: http://www.boomerangalliance.org.au...ed-for-10cent-refund-on-bottles-and-cans.html Report by EMRS, including the actual questions asked to respondents (in case anyone suspects the poll was rigged by asking leading questions): http://www.boomerangalliance.org.au/images/pdfs/emrs tas final results.pdf Note: this is Tasmania only. Support in other states ranges from about 84% to 92% and I'll be happy to dig out the data if anyone really wants to see it. Yes, disposal is the consumers' responsibility, but unfortunately consumers outside of South Australia aren't being very responsible and that is why up to a third of all the garbage that ends up in landfill is comprised of empty beverage containers. All of those containers can be recycled and recycling saves massive amounts of energy, water and raw material. Coca-Cola and Lion Nathan and the rest don't want a container deposit scheme because they think consumers will see the deposit as a "tax" and consequently buy less of their products. Firstly a deposit isn't a tax and secondly, one of the reasons some people think it is a tax is because Coke keep telling them it is! Its a crazy cycle where Coke lies to people, people believe their lies and then Coke points to the people and says "See? This is what people think about the issue". You know what it would really cost you and me it introduce an efficient, automated container deposit scheme? One tenth of one cent per bottle. The fact is that all the opposition to a container deposit scheme is coming from vested interests which are genetically programmed not to give a toss about the society you and me actually live in: corporations.
Yeah, symbollic gesture only. Is it really true that tax payment is voluntary? I think I've seen you mention it before?
Not sure who I was listening too years ago, it was either Gerald Celente or Alex Jones and they predicted the Global Carbon Tax coming in. They went on further to say that once the Tax $ left the countries to establish a Global Governance for Global Carbon that they would develop new legislation and a Global Task force would be developed to police it. This global police force would then issue fines for breaches of this new legislation which would deal with matters such as alterations to home vegetation, livestock movement, cooking methods, recycling compliance, bio mass density (you know police and fine you at home for the good of the planet) Thinking now it was probably Alex Jones I first heard this on.
SO F%#KING WHAT!!! I am not into socialism, and I don't care enough to even pay 1/20%!!!!!! Stop telling me it only costs a little bit every time I am taxed - this reasoning is ideological and I don't give a $$#% about anyone elses ideals!!!!!. All these little bits add up to more than I deserve to be thieved IMHO. If it's only a little bit, then why don't they ask someone who cares less?
With people when we breath in oxygen we then breath out CO2..... How long till the govt taxes people for breathing
