Carbon Price announced today

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  1. Dwayne

    Dwayne New Member

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    Yes, you put it better than I did - I simply meant that it generates it's own heat and light.
     
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    and doing a mighty fine job of generating more heat and light - you could say its getting warmer nonetheless
     
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    It generates it's own light? That is cool.

    All we have is banksters that create taxes :s
     
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    He's not the only person who's studied solar fluctuations you know. Measured solar irradiance has been trending down for the last 40 years or so. The sun is definitely a factor in the climate, but it's only one factor and can't explain the majority of temperature changes.
     
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    Yeah, nowhere near as much as a real star, but some.

    We generate heat though - especially in this thread :)
     
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    I meant to quote not say thanks lol.

    I think you'll find that the sun is the biggest factor in determining our temperatures...
    If you don't believe me ask the guys on Pluto how the weather is.
     
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    I reckon if we shot everyone worth more than 5 million dollars then we would solve most of the problems in the world and help lower CO2 emissions :)
     
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    Agreed - but I said it can't explain the temperature changes, not that it wasn't the most important factor in determining the temperature as a whole :)
     
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    I don't think it would take much to change the Earth's temperature by the .1 degree (or whatever) it has changed.

    Even though the Earth has had a stable temperature for the last 15 years...
     
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    slow down fellas im still getting used to a flood tax for that drought we were supposed to be in :p
     
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    Well you see the thing is, the drought caused heaps of people to start farting, which created CO2 which creates all kinds of disasters.
    I bet NZers wished they didn't have so many sheep farting. There is no fault line, it's just the evil CO2 molecules doing what they do.
     
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    mebbe we can sacrifice a virgin to appease the angry gods
     
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    or gaffa tape Julias mouth shut and reduce emmsisions that way ;)
     
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    Sorry, apparently the Rothschilds only accepts gold, silver or fiat these days :(
     
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    Remember the bit where I said that solar irradiance has been going DOWN for 40 years? That's the wrong direction to explain temperature rises.
     
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    This gets hard when we just quote whatever we want because somebody says something for everything lol.
    At least we're having a debate unlike the pollies.

    The point is that we don't know why the temperature does what it does. There was a mini ice age during the dark ages, why? A lack of CO2?
     
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    There was an ice age that happened so fast mammoths were found with tropical foodstuffs in their throats and personally i believe this "global warming" is a transient phase before we enter a global cooling period and that taxing carbon will not stop that process whether its anthropogenic or not.

    www.iceagenow.com

    meet Robert Felix ex Pentagon advisor who left because he would not toe the "line"
     
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    did someone say somethin' about a 'failed star' ?
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    and...boom-tish
     
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    if we are forced to pay a carbon tax people will pay it but please not under a false illusion - pollution is a problem no question - always follow the money trail - what next earthquake tax? cometary impact tax? volcano tax? jesus coming on a fluffy cloud tax?
     
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    It'd appease me* :D








    *but knowing my luck it'd be a bloke and that wouldn't amuse me in the least :(
     
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