Brexit now being delayed by Cameron, possibly indefinitely

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  1. SpacePete

    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Some interesting observations have been made:

    * Cameron has effectively postponed initiation of the brexit (article 50) by claiming it is for the person who succeeds him as Prime Minister to make the decision. Dates are increasingly unclear.

    * After article 50 is eventually invoked, Britain then has 2 years to complete the paperwork, but everyone agrees then the deadline can simply be extended.

    * There are now calls for a second referendum that may actually get debated in parliament. Even if a second vote ultimately does not go ahead, the debate could further delay initiation of the process.

     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Cameron's successor may simply never invoke article 50:

     
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    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I cannot imagine anyone trying this on.

    It would tell the British people, and indeed the whole world, that a referendum means nothing in the UK. I know I have mentioned it before, but never really felt they would dare try it.

    Same with a new referendum, illogical and an insult to the people.

    But we all know what politicians are like.

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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    With all the delaying tactics you have to wonder if they really are trying this on. What's the bet that before the multi-year process is finalised, there will be a "security incident" or some other event or threat that strikes fear into the people, and the process will be halted indefinitely?
     
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    Brexit is a cog that has slipped in the EU's gears.
    More interesting for me will be the impact to and reaction of other EU member countries over the coming months whilst the UK goes through the motions.
    The slipped cog could lead to a critical failure.
     
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    That risk could provide a pretext to justify attempts at further delays. But it may not work if nations are losing confidence in the EU.
     
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    Cameron's friends have reportedly leaked that the real reason that he quit is because it will be a massive job to negotiate and implement the exit and "why should I do all the hard work? Let someone else do it".
     
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    The 6 or so others that have seen this drama will not let it go, the example has been set and they will not be silenced.

    Maybe the Netherlands next?

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    Sure this would be a big factor. Can you imagine being in charge of negotiation of this magnitude which it he is against. Better to let a brexit leader to do it.
     
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    Considering what the EU dictatorship did to the EU with the "come all" Islamic refugee/migrants all EU nations should leave.
     
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    He could have still resigned and immediately invoked article 50 as he had previously suggested he would. The bulk of the work would not be done by him anyway.
     
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    Other nations are already pissed with Cameron's delaying tactics. Others may be wanting to get their own exits going. Check this out:

     
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    I wonder what the second paragraph below about the statement from EU leadership means?

     
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    Again:

    "...the deal agreed with Mr Cameron in February to protect London's financial markets, curb immigration and opt out of closer union "ceases to exist" and "there will be no renegotiation".
     
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    Gonna be a shitfight
     
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    This: EU deal gives UK special status, says David Cameron

    Back in February, David Cameron negotiated some terms with the EU that were intended to form the basis of the 'Remain' argument. Now the EU are saying that agreement is null and void going forward. Seems right.
     
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    I was wondering what the implications are with this agreement now void. No protection for financial markets? Free-for-all immigration over the next two years?

    What will this do to economic stability?




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    All it means is that the existing arrangements (prior to the Feb 2016 remain in place - existing protections for financial markets, and existing immigration controls remain in place. It certainly won't be a free-for-all.

    Economic stability? Markets are going to be volatile while this plays out, for sure.
     
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    So after the Greece referendum.
    The DNC vote rigging,
    Now this referendum will be swept aside as it doesn't align the the goals of the elites.

    Can we give up this faade that we are living in a time of democracy and freedom?
     

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