Bots on the ASX

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  1. Ouch

    Ouch Active Member

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    Have been watching a certain share on the ASX today and noticed that at regular intervals (exactly every 5/10 minutes) small volume trades have been executed. There is also a (fairly) large buy order placed at a certain price point and the bot is obviously on the sell side selling. My questions are:
    1. Who is that with the big buy order? Is that another bot?
    2. What is the purpose of these small trades by the bot on the sell side? And is this a bullish/bearish sign for the share?

    Here below are the trades for today up to 3:15pm:
    3:15:05 PM 1.325 73 96.725
    3:15:05 PM 1.325 340 450.500
    3:15:05 PM 1.325 26 34.450
    3:10:05 PM 1.325 35 46.375
    3:00:05 PM 1.325 31 41.075
    3:00:05 PM 1.325 306 405.450
    2:50:05 PM 1.325 39 51.675
    2:45:05 PM 1.325 50 66.250
    2:45:05 PM 1.325 333 441.225
    2:40:05 PM 1.325 66 87.450
    2:35:05 PM 1.325 142 188.150
    2:30:30 PM 1.325 58 76.850
    2:30:30 PM 1.325 280 371.000
    2:15:26 PM 1.325 15 19.875
    2:15:26 PM 1.325 269 356.425
     
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    Big A.D. Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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  3. Ouch

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    Are there any codes for an on-market crossing? Can't see any codes in the condition column to indicate these are on-market crossings.
     
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    Frome the website:

    "In broad terms, on-market crossings take place as follows:

    1.The broker places an order at the crossing price, i.e. the price they wish to cross at, then
    2.checks that a crossing market exists. If not, they must create one. A crossing market is one where the priority buy price is one price step or less from the priority sell price.
    3.The broker then places a crossing order. The crossing order immediately results in a trade where the broker sells to themselves."

    At what point is the general public going to say enough of this mumbo jumbo BS!!
    We want sound money and investments not made up fiction and garbage......
     
  5. Big A.D.

    Big A.D. Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    No idea.

    I saw this happening with a stock I was watching a while ago for really tiny volumes of shares (like 7 shares @ 47.5c each). The next time I called my broker (ETRADE) about something I asked WTF it was because the transaction costs would have been more that what the shares were worth unless the people buying and selling had some kind of flat rate trading package. They said for those kinds of small trades the activity would be a crossing of some type where a broker is providing a sort of token notification to the market that they've facilitated a trade privately.
     
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    Very strange. Still can't see the reason why its done the way its being done. Even if they were token notifications or facilitated private trades why not in larger and more normal tranches and less frequently? Anyway I was too spooked by this afternoon's action and closed my position.
     
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    Its basically using algorythms to entice other algorythms

    Ignore the noise and invest on fundamentals - Gold Is Money
     

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