Billy Meier: 2020 US breaks up into 5 territories due to 2 civil wars

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  1. Skyrocket

    Skyrocket Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    That lie detector test was from around 1979 and the police departments used it back then with good success or else they would not have used it. She took the test with Meier and passed but they ommitted it from the documentary.
     
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    You would believe anything ... the Meier case is less about aliens and more about politics ... even Wendelle Stevens commented on the CIA being around ...
     
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    So where is the footage now ... if it's not in the documentary where is it ...
     
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    To date I am not convinced about Meier on looking at him briefly. In particular when his wife displays the garbage bin lid and points out same shapes/markings on bin lid which are indentical to the alleged UFO shape/markings in Meier video.
    See vid below for pics of alleged crashed UFOs or AFO in the ice in Antarctica. Also see pics of pyramids in Antarctica. One of the Pyramids is said to be 20 x the size of any other know Pyramid on our planet. Over time so much has been discovered in Antarctica but all this info is not released to the public.Vid was taken by a Canadian serviceman.

    View first 8 min of vid. UFOs briefly shown from 4 min 50 sec

     
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    Skyrocket Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The footage never made it to the documentary and the lead investigators into the case/documentary acknowledged she took it and passed.

    People wishing to look at the Meier case to see if it is legit need to look deeply into to look past all the material in the case that the secret intelligence's planted in it to make people think it is a hoax.
     
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    For those newcomers to Meier case, who have no idea that the case has long ago been debunked:

    http://billymeieruforesearch.com

    And hey Skyrocket, how you doing?;)
     
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    Lt Colonel Wendelle Stevens worked for the military ...

    It seems information was planted in it to make people think it is real to help their socio-political agenda ...

    I do not doubt UFO's exist ... i doubt the BM case ...
     
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    I just watched a HBO TV movie from 1997 named "The Second Civil War".

    Here's the trailer:



    It was marketed as a dark comedy, but oddly prescient.
     
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    ^ It's a film and and all it mentions is a second civil war, nothing else, whereas Meier's is very specific and detailed and even gives a date. We are also seeing several USA's allies starting to distance themselves from the USA as foretold too. One example is Turkey. Another is Germany as it is going ahead with gas deal (trade) with Russia against the USA demands. From 1st post -



    Billy Meier - The Henoch Prophecies

    copyrighted

    Contact Report 215, February 28, 1987


    "Yet the misery on Earth will continue, as two terrible civil wars will break out in America, whereby one will follow the other. Afterwards, the United States of America will break apart and deadly hostility will prevail among her, which then leads to the division into five different territories; and it cannot be prevented that sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role."


    Contact Report 544, September 1st, 2012


    Billy:

    "When I consider that which you already confided to me during my Great Trip in 1975, that, according to your probability calculations, the superpower USA could come to an end after 2020, if nothing in this country changes for the better by then, and if those who are the USA's allies continue to dissociate from that country, or even become open enemies of that country, then could Obama perhaps be the crucial point so that this can indeed still be prevented?"


    Ptaah:

    "That could be so, but also to consider is that which the Obama followers will do next and which internal and external policies they pursue, because this will also determine that which will happen after 2020.......................... ..........................And this political and government elite consists of both Republicans, as well as Democrats. Valuable reforms to the welfare of the population and the country are not sought. Thus the already profound poverty among the people continuously escalates, while the wealthy ever further enrich themselves, so that the social inequality gains ground ever faster. Thus, with a collapse of the USA, only two possibilities can be considered, whereby, with the one, it boils down to a dictatorship with evil reprisals and great Gewalt, while the other possibility may be a new reconstruction, if people who are fundamentally conscious of their responsibilities attain government and really do everything to bring about an effective and valuable new start. But whether this will actually occur, is currently extremely questionable, because presently, in a totalitarian manner, everything is directed towards interests which are economic, military, political and cultural as well as towards that which is strict fundamentalist religious-sectarian and based on enormous lies and devious, misanthropic, criminal and felonious machinations in every imaginable regard. This also means that the population of the USA is spied upon by the secret services and even severely within the neighbourhoods, and so forth, and, in every possible manner being restricted in its freedom, and this is in addition to the Gewalt, as it emerges in some form or other, both openly and covertly."
     
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    Its 2020 and we arent anywhere close to a civil war here.
    America will never be split into 5 parts.
    The next civil war will be between free men and the govt. Every semblance of the tyrants will be burned to the ground and they will be hung from the treetops for all to see.
    Every fed building will be burned down and the bankers kicked out once again.
    Everyone will need to pick a side and it will be the time to choose wisely.
    The govt has already picked their position as they try to strip gun rights and it wont end well.
    Virginia is a good testing ground now, they are arming up and forming state militias for when the un troops show up to confiscate guns. They are ready to fight for their lives. We will see how that turns out but it wont be good.
    Americans wont take lightly to being invaded by foreigners and they will be soft targets anywhere they go, they wont be safe.
    You see a blue helmet you kill the man wearing it will be the rule.
    Most us troops and law enforcement will never follow orders that break their oath.
    That's the future I see if it goes that far.
    The gun grabbers and rights takers might back off before then but they are already making threats and have pretty much culled every man in California like babies.

    I take my oath very serious and I wont bend. I dont stack an armory for target practice that's for sure. It's for when the invasion starts.
    The main reason behind the 2 A is exactly what we see now. It's so we can stop the tyrants and protect our god given rights and that's it.
     
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    Sheriff's have been taking a stand and refusing to accept these orders all around America. They claim they will deputize 500 armed men per county before they will break their oath.
    It's already been this way for years with high capacity magazines, sbr rifles, bump stocks. Many Sheriff's simply wont enforce these unconstitutional new laws.
    Actually MOST are not cooperating.

    Nothing pisses off the governors and pollies like a sheriff that wont comply. Sad for them the sheriff has 1000's of men standing behind him ready to back him up.
    This is also why the sheriff is considered the law of the land and the only real law enforcement. Because a sheriff is VOTED IN by each county by the people.
    Not hired by a city as police that only work in the cities interest and on glutinous pay and benefits for nothing and hired by other crook cops.
     
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    It's easy to blame the left but the right is also sell out traitors.
    They dont fight any of this, they fall lockstep into whatever deals the left wants as long as both sides get what they want. Welfare or war spending, they both have agendas.
    It comes down to a damn county sheriff to challenge it and not one man in DC with a sack of balls among them will stand up.
    All sellouts.

    Republicans have already supported gun control measures (Trumps bump stock ban) and if they arent pushing the lefts agenda they are sitting on their hands doing nothing.
    Bipartisan politics are for sell outs and the weak.

    Weve always known the left hates the constitution but the right is leaning that way now too.
    Their future as complete fascists and controllers rely upon decimating individual rights and completing the agenda of the elitists they answer to.
    They will fight security in schools for protection of our children as they surround themselves by armed men. Excuse after excuse and no one with a brain believes this crap.
    All the while they keep the focus on any distraction they can think of instead of addressing the obvious.

    The rino republican party rules the right now and will play no part in defending the constitution. They hate Americans and the idea of America same as the left. They.talk out of both sides of their heads and the nonsense is the same.

    It takes more than some flag waving and catchy mottos to trick most people.
     
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    If not for Trump, Clinton would have either started WWIII or the US would be in civil war now. Oh wait, Trump’s term is ending this year so it could still happen. :D
     
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    I hope you are right but unfortunately it looks like another/this Meier prophecy will fulfill itself to the letter, just like some of his other prophecies did.

    If/when it does happen just remember where you heard it first, and what it really means how he could have known this decades ago. Are his ET contacts real? Meier first published that prophecy (under copyright) in 1987. Then it was published in the 2004 Meier book "And Still They Fly" which can still be bought second hand off Amazon. See first post of this thread for the photo proof of my book. And I posted this thread in May 2015 if any care to take a look. This thread and I were laughed at back then when I posted it but since then everything has been slowly fulfilling itself to that prophecy. If it happens, how did Meier know?
     
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    My wife has read some of his books. Shes a UFO and sasquatch type.
    He does mention that the future can be molded somewhat from his worst case scenarios but the worst case scenarios are what he focuses on because it's our current reality on our current path.
    Hes also said that some point the future America doesnt exist at all after natural disasters take it all.
    That's more depressing than a civil war I think!
     
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    That other prophecy is far in the future long long after we all pass away.

    Sadly nothing in America has gotten better after Trump was elected, even though he means well. In it's attempt to stop Trump from winning 2020 election the deep state and it's medias have succeeded in dividing that nation between left and right. Now these people can't stand each other at all. The hatred runs real deep. Sadly this Meier prophecy has reached the point of no return and with certainty will fulfill itself.
     
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    Trump will win the next election and then in 2024 it will be the Democrats because the demographics point that way.

    Republicans will never get back after that, so hope will keep USA together until at least 2032 when the inevitability of an urban democrat vote forever will sink in.

    The ideological base that broke up the Soviet Union isn't there in USA. The government and economy is at a war standing and so it has the means to squash any dissent. It's fantasy to think that any number of M16 caches could win a drone /economic war.

    There'll be no Alamo, or Redoubt secession. The Empire is at its greatest strength so it won't release any of its prizes.
     

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