Bali 9! Are you for or against the execution of the 2 Bali 9 members?

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  1. willrocks

    willrocks Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    They simply didn't pay enough to satisfy the Bali cronies. Once it gained too much attention it was too late for bribes.

    The cronies probably have their fingers in the drug trade. Apparently drugs are widespread.
     
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    Personally, if they were to be executed they should have done so many years ago. Why give them false hopes. End it back then.

    I don't really like Indonesia what were they hoping for? some funds from Australia?

    I really hate our government for giving Indonesia 600mil a year. I'd wish my taxes were lower instead.

    Slam
     
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    Cancel all foreign aid to Indonesia for each year they were kept in prison before being executed.
    Australia treats censored - this word gets our forum blocked and Murderer's with much more mercy than either of these two drug smugglers ever received let alone that shown to people smugglers from Indonesia.
    What is worse, smuggling people or drugs ?

    please don't try to circumvent the censoring with spelling variations - it's in place for a very good reason - goldpelican
     
  4. goldpelican

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    Food for thought... Indonesia is the world's 16th largest economy, yet Australia gives them $605m in aid. Nepal is down somewhere around 106th, yet they get $33m in aid. Maybe switch the amounts for a year and give Nepal a helping hand up out of the rubble.

    That said - an Indonesian woman is 30 times more likely to die in childbirth than an Australian woman and one in three children under the age of five suffer from stunting, caused by malnutrition. About 120 million Indonesians do not have access to safe drinking water while about 110 million do not have adequate sanitation (source: DFAT). Heaven knows what the stats per capita are like in places like West Papua. Think you've got your priorities wrong Joko. Drugs aren't your country's biggest problem.
     
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    As abhorrent as the crime of drug smuggling is, the direct, wilful slaying of life is worse.
     
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    So if people die from overdoses of smuggled drugs thats ok?
     
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    I'm not the same person as I was as a teenager or my early 20's. Looking back at some of the things I did and opinions I had I would have called my self ad!ck.
    Everyone makes mistakes although not to the extent that those two did, but the death penalty is going to far. Taking away their dreams through extended jail sentence would have been enough Imo.
    In my younger days I would have proposed the death penalty but I am aware of more things these days as would like to think that age has made me rethink the way things should work.
     
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    Seems like a non sequitur.
     
  9. sammysilver

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    Definitely not okay. But is a deliberate, premeditated killing okay?
     
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    I have never died from an overdose of smuggled drugs and no matter how much is smuggled in I doubt I will die since I don't use drugs. The war on drugs does not effect the availability of the drugs it just effects the price of drugs (supply and demand). It's usually the lack of supply of safer alternatives that leads to deaths and overdoses. It's a medical issue not a political issue, if a junkie doesn't overdose from one suppliers drug they will just overdose on it from a different supplier. I don't blame the suppliers as much as I blame the lack of education, if you want to tackle the issue head on then deal with the reason why someone would take drugs in the first place.

    Politically you could not change what had already happened but they could have just prevented 8 more drug related deaths.
     
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    The media will be scrambling to find something else to distract us from the real news now.
     
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    Yes. Bread and Circuses.
     
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    Apparently people mistook a bunch of heroin junkies heating spoons as a candlelight vigil
     
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    It's an ill wind indeed that doesn't blow Murdock any good.
     
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    The event made me feel a bit sick in the stomach, but imagine
    spending your life in prison.
    Maybe a mercy.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing . the msm is fkn ridiculous im surprised anyone even watches or reads it anymore . After my extended holiday ive come back to oz & the amount of sheer dribble is almost unbearable ...i cant watch the nightly news without cringing even the sound of it in the background annoys me .. my old man who is 81 thrives on the dribble then tries to regurgitate the rubbish to me & i just walk away nodding & agreeing so i dont get into an arguement with him over the rubbish..it is truly cringworthy & unbearable :rolleyes:

    If they considered themselves to be real news they would air/print the real news stories instead sensationalistic garbage they do .
     
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    I find it very hard to watch the news too, so much crap about nothing.
     
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    Killing someone is only appropriate if it effectively involves saving a life, example - in self defense.

    Also, around 95% of Indonesian's are religious which makes little sense why there is much support there for the death penalty.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Indonesia


    That said I put most of this blame on the smugglers and on the AFP for tipping off the Indonesian's about them.
     
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