Baird brings down the ban hammer on greyhound racing

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  1. col0016

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    Greyhound owners are small business.

    Standing up to big business would be implementing lock-out laws everywhere in Sydney, not everywhere except the casino (big business).
     
  2. Shaddam IV

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    Big business is making every decision based on how it will benefit militant trade unions, which is how NSW operates under Labor every time. I do agree with you that the casino being exempt from lockout laws stinks of corruption.
     
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    He didn't accept the recommendations, he accepted one recommendation in preference to the other. He decided it would be too difficult to tackle the problems in the industry so he shut it down.

    He will now turn his attention to banning beach erosion, outlawing illiteracy and imposing trade sanctions on the export of coal that is used to power Chinese factories that make plastic toys that are a choke hazard to infants.
     
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    One day we'll each need an advanced AI to help us navigate the vast regulatory sea of laws if we wish to venture out of our house without copping a fine.
     
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    Okay, so what's your solution for dealing with the 15,000 ex-racers and puppies that become surplus to the industry's requirements every year?

    If you really believe strongly in it, maybe you should adopt a greyhound or two and do your bit to absorb the huge surplus of dogs.
     
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    I think this was another half arse 'no-thought', 'easy way out' solution that's targeting, for the most part, small business holders. Similarities with the liquor laws, no targeting problem solving, just outlawing another item in the 'too hard basket'. I can correlate this same mentality with that of the death penalty. When someone becomes too difficult to rehabilitate, just kill them. Will Baird perhaps lobby for a return of the death penalty too?

    Governing incompetence. To put it simply.
     
  7. JulieW

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    Some day we'll look at horse and dog racing as we look at Bear Baiting and Cockfights.

    If any of you follow a religion, gambling is a no-no btw. Ditto cruelty to animals.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Depends if the weirdos win and ban all sports involving animals I guess.

    Edit to add: and while they're at it they can ban dressage events, showjumping, obedience trials, chicken shows, sheep dog events, keeping birds in cages, kids playing with guinea pigs and all the other unnatural ways humans interact with animals and enhance our pleasure of life.
     
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    Take your pick: reduce the number of races in order to reduce the number of dogs required which will also lengthen a dog's potential career as the risk of injury is reduced, reduce prizemoney on events, legislate that greyhound racing is for amateurs only so no prize pools at all, enhance the prizemoney for dogs that are older or slower or have only 3 legs, get rid of the rabbit, put a quota on greyhound pups and sell the rights to owning a greyhound with the proceeds used to house unwanted pups, and.......maybe the government should investigate, charge and jail those guilty of animal abuse instead of sticking their head in the sand and not pursuing any investigation?????????, sell the dogs to China for meat etc etc etc.

    And no I don't want to adopt any ex-racing dogs. I don't have any moral obligation nor is there any logically rational obligation to have to adopt a dog just because I believe that an individual should be free to pursue the sport/pastime/recreational activity of their choosing without interference from the State or others who just happen to not like animal racing. Don't worry though, you'll have your chance to adopt a dog or 12 now that the government has banned racing. You'll be able to put your money where your mouth is!* Maybe post a pic in the "What I did today" thread here of you and a couple of the greyhounds you've adopted. :lol:

    *Do what I did, put my beliefs into practice. I joined Bush heritage and contribute a monthly sum to purchase plots of land from owners for environmental purposes - AKA free-market environmentalism.

    Edit to add: and now some bloody night-parrot which I'll never likely see is getting more of my money. :lol:
     
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    Lot of laws you want in there Shiney!



    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    :lol:

    I know, but sometimes it's the only way to appease the statist crowds.

    I would have said to privatise the industry and put the responsibility and enforcement procedures for managing greyhound wellbeing onto the operators of racetracks who would ensure a higher standard of animal welfare because their reputation would depend upon it, and as we all know reputation counts as everything in a competitive marketplace - but I reckon people would start posting Unicorn memes and inviting me to sing Kumbaya and have tea with the fairies in the garden - and I'm sick of fairy tea. ;)
     
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    You're not accusing me of compromising my consistent and rock-solid platform of ideals now are you Jules? :/

    :cool:
     
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    That would be C3PO

    George Lucas was a visionary....
     
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    C3PO-AU: Fluent in over 6 million pages of taxation legislation.
     
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    JulieW I have to confess your logic is usually spot on!

    Sadly I do like a punt even though I shouldn't as I would say I am "religious" but... it is fun!

    When it comes to caring for life - I even teach my kids that we need to cherish all life - even that of ants and to not burn them with the magnifying glass in the sun! Dead leaves are not off limits though! Love the smell of smoke... AHH! Smoking is bad for me too - I am religious! But I love it too!

    JulieW, thanks for the reminder to get back on the straight and narrow! When are you having your next Bible study?

    Shiny.
     
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    Nothing wrong with a normal cock fight ... it's normal bird behavior. It happens whether they legislate it legal or not.
     
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    That ACT land is worth a lot of money if were to be zoned residential.
     
  19. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    What neighbourhood do those cocks strap knives to their feet? I'll stay clear.
     
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    ;)

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