Aussie Nanny State - Now killing Online Poker?

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  1. BuggedOut

    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Today I woke up and in my inbox was a notification from 888poker (my online poker provider) that they are closing accounts of Australians as of 16th Jan.

    I thought that was a bit strange so I started to research into what was going on. Apparrently the nanny state politicians are passing a new Interactive Gaming Ammendment Bill which is going to make it illegal (and importantly - prosecutable) for anyone to offer online gambling to Australians from offshore. They are going to insist that operators are licensed and regulated by an Australian State or Territory. However, there is no State or Territory which is licensing online poker. So effectively, they are killing online poker for all Australians in the process.

    Now before I trigger some lefty rant about problem gambling - this is not about problem gambling, otherwise they would be taking on the poker machines or some of the predatory bookmaker practises going on in this country. No, this is about revenue and control. It is big-government politics about looking after the mates running brick and mortar casinos and pubs who will now be able to monopolise the poker action.

    http://www.australiantimes.co.uk/ma...oors-to-australia-should-new-regulation-pass/

    A long running thread to give a lot of history on the subject (it gets current around page 43) :-

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...r-australia-but-how-long-1366296/index49.html

    Here is a petition being put forward by Australian Taxpayers Alliance :-

    http://www.taxpayers.org.au/keep_online_poker_legal
     
  2. Court Jester

    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    try one of the other many providers that do not have an australian presence and wont follow australian law or give 2 hoots about it.
     
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    Stoic Phoenix Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Interesting, don't know if you were playing back as far as 2011 to know about Black Friday....USA players were locked out with no notice and funds frozen for years in many cases before getting funds back
     
  4. BuggedOut

    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I have heard of it and made my withdrawal request today.

    Many will do what CJ suggests but that puts us with shady operators where the risks are even greater. Prohibition has never worked.
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    It's just a taste of our totally regulated future. You won't even be able to have a quick afternoon wank without preapproval, and then you'd have to file a declaration so the ATO can claim the forgone GST that should have been paid if you would have employed the services of a professional lass for said hanjob service.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Regulatory capture as opposed to nanny state laws maybe?
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Why not both?
     
  8. BuggedOut

    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    It could be a case of one masquerading as the other.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Either way it's pretty disgraceful.
     
  10. CriticalSilver

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    C'mon you guys! How do you expect them to be able to afford to fly into their Polo matches and AFL Grand Finals and cream all their other entitlements if they can't control all the cash flows? You guys are sounding like the LDP ... "Less Government, More Freedom"

    ... and hasn't SpacePete come along way in the past couple of years. Next he'll be arguing how Global Warming is just another scam to regulate and financialise CO2. :lol:
     
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    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Some good articles coming out now :-

    https://bettingsite.com.au/888-poker-withdraws-from-australia-in-midst-of-aussie-millions/

    https://www.onlinecasino.com.au/new...w-australian-withdrawal-hundreds-remain-9392/

    https://www.casino.org/news/888-leaves-australian-market-online-poker-threat-oz

     
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    VPN and/or proxy. Blockchain. BAU.
     
  13. BuggedOut

    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    That doesn't work here. The KYC (Know Your Customer) means you have to provide address and proof of ID. If you have an Australian address you're blocked - doesn't matter where you log in from.

    You'd need an overseas identity and residence and then use a VPN or Proxy. Breaking the terms of service no doubt and putting your deposit at risk.

    Obviously there will be some shady operators using Bitcoin (there is talk of them in the forums I'm watching) but the whole point being you now will be breaking the law outright and the big legitimate players and operators will be done for.

    This is not trivial. It is the future of Australia for us to be regulated and innovation and industry smothered to death by the nanny state. If the government and their mates aren't getting a cut of the action then you're screwed.
     
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    tolly_67 Well-Known Member

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    Poker? hardly!! I barely knew her...
    An oldy but a goody.
     
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    radiobirdman Active Member Silver Stacker

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    That's a bit misogynistic :D
     
  16. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    My wife is holidaying in the Carribean.

    Jamaica

    No, she went of her own accord.
     
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    tolly_67 Well-Known Member

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    misogynistic;
    adjective,
    strongly prejudiced against women.

    The joke is not prejudiced. It is, however, an immature innuendo which is in poor taste and displays no intelligence whatsoever of the person posting it.
     
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    I don't think a joke determines ones intelligence it determines your sense of humour maybe?
    One needs to lighten up one thinks! ;)
     
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    radiobirdman Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Obviously I was being serious
    Not
     
  20. Gullintanni

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    This started taking shape about 6 years ago.
    I am in NZ and wanted my online action to be in what i considered a safe country so was using Centrebet in Australia.
    They had online sports as well as pokies and poker.
    I had been with them for years until 6 (ish , i cant recall exactly) i got an email to say that the casino side of their business was closing so i upped sticks and moved to bet365 in the UK.
    As it turns out bet365 offers way better service so i guess i lucked out, but had centrebet continued with the Poker and pokies i would still be with them today.
     

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