AUCTION - Something Special, Rhodium and Ruthenium

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  1. adze67

    adze67 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    G'day Folks,

    And now for something a little different for the weekend :) The "rarer" Precious Metals all seem to be making a run at the moment (similar to before the last GFC episode, one there's a school of thought that says we are inevitably heading towards again ;) ) so on offer some of the harder to come by Rhodium and Ruthenium.
    The Rhodium came from Perth Bullion and I've been unable to source anyone in Australia with these fractional sizes available (none at Golden Eagle Coins either (if they did they would be ~$275AUD each), Provident are out of stock and Liberty Gold & Silver have some ($267AUD each) + shipping), while the Ruthenium came from back in the day when @phrenzy (R.I.P.) put together an offering of physical for the Silver Stackers community (kicked off in this thread - ruthenium stacking?)...no source for this in Australia but Liberty Gold & Silver have 50oz buckets for $115USD/oz ($150AUD/oz...$7500AUD per bucket + shipping) :D
    Source - Liberty Gold & Silver

    Some historical charts for Rhodium and Ruthenium...
    Rhodium peaked at $10,000/oz on June 24th 2008 & Ruthenium peaked at $850/oz on 27th February 2007.

    Current prices here have them at $1620USD/oz ($2109.05AUD) for Rhodium and $90USD/oz ($117.17AUD) for the Ruthenium (~$3.77AUD/gm)...Rhodium has appreciated ~110% YTD / Ruthenium is up 125% YTD!!

    The Rhodium is in the form of 1/10thoz certicards and the Ruthenium comes in glass vials containing 25gms of 99.98% purity from Heraeus. The jars weigh in at 32gms each with the empty glass vial weighing ~7gms so 25 gms of Ruthenium in each :)
    Rodium 01.jpg Ruthenium Label.jpg Ruthenium 01.jpg Ruthenium 02.jpg

    Auction finish starting at 18:00 WST (20:30 SA / 21:00 EDST/ 20:00 Qld) - Sunday 29th October... TONIGHT!!!

    ALL Lots finishing at the same time!!
    *With the usual "5 minutes after Final bid" actual finish for each particular Lot (Forum Timestamp used) *

    Any valid bid for a particular Lot extends the Finish for ALL Lots!!
    ie. The Auction will be Officially over once ALL bids have finished!!


    **Note** As a further "clarification", highlighted from previous Auctions, any bids not deemed "valid" (ie. raising a bid on a Lot your bid is already currently leading or a bid at less than / same price as the current leading bid for a particular Lot) will NOT extend the Finish time of the Auction... (Hoping this adds clarity :rolleyes:...)

    *No edited Bids, please :) the Forum does indicate "edited" when posts are edited (look above the "Quote Reply" right hand side) so if you make a bid and it turns out the same or lower than a previous bid please place a new post for the bid to make it higher rather than "edit" the post with the unsuccessful bid - although editing to clarify a Lot # is fine :oops: *


    Due to no "seconds" showing on Forum timeclock any duplicate bids with the same timestamp will be "first in line" gets the spot ;)

    ~SPOT RESERVEs - Highest bid over Reserve price will be the winner on ALL Lots

    Postage at Winner's Choice/Cost/Risk (at this stage...)

    BONUS – FREE Pre-'46 Florin(s) for winners of Multiple Lots :cool:

    And without further ado, on to the Auction...

    Lot 1 - 1 * 25gm vial of Heraeus 99.98 pure Ruthenium - Reserve $94 (Under Spot!...just ;))
    Ruthenium 03.jpg
    Lot 2 - 1 * 1/10oz Baird & Co Rhodium Certicard bar - Reserve $210 (Under Spot!...just ;))
    Rodium 01.jpg
    Lot 3 - 2 * 25gm vials of 99.98 pure Ruthenium - Reserve $188 (Under Spot!...just ;))
    Ruthenium 04.jpg

    Lot 4 - 2 * 1/10oz Baird & Co Rhodium Certicard bar - Reserve $420 (Under Spot!...just ;))
    Rodium 03.jpg

    Lot 5 - 1 * 25gm vial of Heraeus 99.98 pure Ruthenium & 1 * 1/10oz Baird & Co Rhodium Certicard bar - Reserve $304 (Under Spot!...just ;))
    Rhodium_Ruthenium 01.jpg

    Thanks for looking :cool:
     
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    that collection! lots of nice stuff.

    Excuse my ignorance :(
    Do vials (i.e. lot1,3,5) have any markings on them?
    I mean something that would say it is Ruthenium from Heraeus.

    Do vial have a seal or something, to ensure they were not open?

    Thank you,
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    And we’re awaaaaay…off and running on All Lot 1 at least ;)

    Ahoy, Welcome Aboard and thanks for the bid to Silverbandit007 (opening the bidding for Lot 1 (1 * 25gm Ruthenium) :) )

    Leader-Board

    Lot 1 (Ruthenium * 1) – $94 / Silverbandit007
    Lot 2 (Rhodium * 1)Still at the Starter’s Gate…
    Lot 3 (Ruthenium * 2)Still at the Starter’s Gate…
    Lot 4 (Rhodium * 2)Still at the Starter’s Gate…
    Lot 5 (Ruth&Rhod)Still at the Starter’s Gate…

    Hey gK, there aren't any markings on the vials, these were as supplied from phrenzy when the group buy was done back in 2015 (the picture of the jar the Ruthenium came from was supplied from phrenzy at the time)...I'm just providing them as they were supplied to me :) the deal was done in good faith and, as anyone else who had dealt with him (phrenzy) would attest to, I have the utmost confidence as to the providence and purity of the Ruthenium (his Trade Feedback here...102 Positives)...as discussed in the "ruthenium stacking?" thread, it is very difficult to get hold of physical Ruthenium (bars/blobs, while available, are at a significant premium to the prevailing spot price...see here) They are however (I believe?) easily checked by xrf machines and, as usual with any dealings with me, if there's any issue with the products I'm happy to arrange refunds...They've been in the same plastic bags they were delivered in since the deal and still have the original tape on the bottles as they were sent (i.e. I just put them in the "Stack" and forgot about them lol)...
    Also, as noted in the thread, it's impossible to get small amounts of Ruthenium without a significant premium...the minimum buy is for a 50oz "bucket" (price noted as ~$7500AUD + shipping) so that was the way it was done at the time...hope this helps mate.

    :cool:
     
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    I dont have any ruthenium in my stack yet
     
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    And we’re awaaaaay…on Lot 3 & Lot 5 now too :D

    Ahoy, Welcome Aboard and thanks for the bids to l***g (opening the bidding for Lot 5 (the Ruthenium/Rhodium combo) :) ) and to serial (getting Lot 3 (the Ruthenium double set) out the gate) :) )…the 2 Rhodium offerings still waiting at the Gate ;)

    Leader-Board

    Lot 1 (Ruthenium * 1) – $94 / Silverbandit007
    Lot 2 (Rhodium * 1)Still at the Starter’s Gate…
    Lot 3 (Ruthenium * 2) – $188 / serial
    Lot 4 (Rhodium * 2)Still at the Starter’s Gate…
    Lot 5 (Ruth&Rhod) – $304 / l***g

    :cool:
    Well to balance a Stack, you've got to have a bit of everything lol
    (Already had a good pick-up with the Rhodiums last time mate :p)
     
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    I know, since I got them rhodium went from some $1200 us to $1600 usd :)
     
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    Lot 3 $190
    Lot 4 $420
     
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    And now we’re awaaaaay…on All Lots :D

    Ahoy, Welcome Aboard and thanks for the bids to Brendio (opening the bidding for Lots 2 & 4 (the Rutheniums, Single and Double), raising the stakes for Lot 3 (the Ruthenium Doubler) and taking on the high bid holder’s spot for Lot 5 (the Ruthenium/Rhodium combo) :) )

    Welcome back and thanks for the bid to serial (re-claiming the pole-position for Lot 3 (the Ruthenium doubles) :) )

    Leader-Board

    Lot 1 (Ruthenium * 1) – $94 / Silverbandit007
    Lot 2 (Rhodium * 1) – $210 / Brendio
    Lot 3 (Ruthenium * 2) – $191 / serial
    Lot 4 (Rhodium * 2) – $420 / Brendio
    Lot 5 (Ruth&Rhod) – $305 / Brendio

    :cool:
     
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    Welcome back and thanks for the bid to Argentumiser (re-gaining the high-bid holder’s spot for Lot 5 (the Ruthenium & Rhodium combo) :) )

    Auction finish starting in around 4 & ¾ hours’ time :D

    Leader-Board

    Lot 1 (Ruthenium * 1) – $94 / Silverbandit007
    Lot 2 (Rhodium * 1) – $210 / Brendio
    Lot 3 (Ruthenium * 2) – $191 / serial
    Lot 4 (Rhodium * 2) – $420 / Brendio
    Lot 5 (Ruth&Rhod) – $306 / Argentumiser

    :cool:
     
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    Welcome back and thanks for the bid to l***g (moving back to the front for Lot 5 (the Ruthenium & Rhodium combo) :) )

    Auction finish starting in around 4 hours’ time :D

    Leader-Board

    Lot 1 (Ruthenium * 1) – $94 / Silverbandit007
    Lot 2 (Rhodium * 1) – $210 / Brendio
    Lot 3 (Ruthenium * 2) – $191 / serial
    Lot 4 (Rhodium * 2) – $420 / Brendio
    Lot 5 (Ruth&Rhod) – $307 / l***g

    :cool:
     
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    Just for something interesting ;)
    This is the "Historic" Chart for Rhodium (link in OP above...)
    Rhodium Historic.PNG
    And the "Historic" Chart for Ruthenium (link also in OP above...)
    Ruthenium Historic.PNG
    Funnily enough both of these Precious Metals started their last big rise leading into the GFC...and they're maybe doing it again??
    Both also had significant increases around the 2000 "Dotcom" bust too...interesting? ;)
     
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    Welcome back and thanks for the bid to Brendio (grabbing pole-position for Lot 1 (the single Ruthenium), to go with lead bids for Lot 2 & Lot 4 (the Rhodium Single and Doubles) :) )

    serial still with Lot 3 (the Ruthenium Doubler) and l***g holding the front for Lot 5 (the Ruthenium/Rhodium combo)...

    Auction finish starting in around 3 & ½ hours’ time :D

    Leader-Board

    Lot 1 (Ruthenium * 1) – $95 / Brendio
    Lot 2 (Rhodium * 1) – $210 / Brendio
    Lot 3 (Ruthenium * 2) – $191 / serial
    Lot 4 (Rhodium * 2) – $420 / Brendio
    Lot 5 (Ruth&Rhod) – $307 / l***g

    :cool:
     
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    Heading inside the last 15 minutes :)
    Last chance to grab some "cheap" (all Lots still only slightly over Spot, and would normally attract GST :p) Ruthenium and Rhodium :D
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