Arhh Red Light.....Driving Fines/Demerit Points

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  1. Dabloodymess

    Dabloodymess Active Member

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    One thing I do find quite handy over here in Thailand is the timers they attach onto the lights (see below)

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    Source: Google

    It lets you know exactly how long you have left before the red, and then when the light is red it lets you know how long till the green.
     
  2. Naphthalene Man

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    Ahh just like the drag strip. As the timer approaches for the start of the green they rev their engines....
    green she goes....
    AND THEY ARE OFF!!!!!
     
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    Exactly what happens! hahah

    I am guilty of setting off with one or two seconds till the green light when I am on the motorbike... luckily there are no red light cameras :p
     
  5. Ernster

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    Thailand is awesome! Gotta go back one day.

    For a place that has such little rules, it's quite safe place overall. Feels safer than Adelaide.

    (apart from the odd kidnapping of course)
     
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    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    That was interesting. I'd never even thought about that before.

    Is it true that you can tell them the court date doesn't suit you and just keep on delaying? That wouldn't result in contempt of court or they wouldn't issue you with an ultimatum or maybe not re-issue your license if it had expired until you had gone to court, would it?

    It's fine to say if enough people do it, it will break the system, which I'm sure is true, but if I had enough people I could break the taxation system, so I don't see that aspect as being relevant.

    If it doesn't work on an individual level I don't see the point, but it does sound interesting to me.

    EDIT: as an aside my parents got a speeding ticket once and they gave my uncle's name and address, who had been visiting and was driving the car at the time. His name and address in the UK that was. They never heard anything about it again.
     
  8. Shaddam IV

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    If enough people chose to go to court over traffic fines and stalled the system the government would simply legislate that it is no longer allowable to take a ticket to court. Justice and civil rights are an outdated concept in Australia this century.
     
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    No idea. However, I should think that you could delay it once or twice, and get away with it. Perhaps a doctor's certificate may string it out a bit longer, and still give you an alibi? :)
     
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    Not a day goes by where I don't see a motorist driving whilst on the phone. It's equivalent to driving whilst intoxicated. Even if cyclists were blasting through intersections they come off second best every single time.
     
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    RED LIGHT!!!

    Ah shuduppa ya face.
     
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    Given that, lets be honest, most traffic offences are just revenue raising, isn't means tested fines the same as different income tax brackets?
     
  14. Ernster

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    Good luck Dex. I read that someone went through a read light to let an ambulance through but apparently that wasnt good enough.

    It seems there is NO excuse good enough for going through a red light.

    It kind of begs the question what would you do in that situation?

    Would you let the ambulance through and risk losing your license and job, or stay put? Not a position I hope to ever be in.
     
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    Did they take it to court, or just ask for an internal review of the ticket? If you ask for an internal review, the reviewer has no discretionary power at all and you will just get a form letter advising your to pay up or take it to court.

    I don't know anyone who has not been fined for traffic "offences" here in police state Victoria.

    But if we're safer with a 12.5% increase, surely we would be twice as safe with a 25% increase and 8 times as safe with a 100% increase in the cost of fines. :lol: Yes, they're good fines and you should all be very careful on the road, because they don't want anyone getting hurt. Certainly they don't need the money and are not using the system of fines and penalties to raise revenues. :lol:
     
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    Woohoo, I'm finally down to zero demerit points!
     
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    How did you do that? Did you pay your fines?
     
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    It takes 3 years for them to expire. So you have to go three years without an offense.
     
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    Victoria now has paramilitary-esque highway police who use camouflage netting, camo clothing, optical equipment and covert radar to identify rule-breakers and despatch regular officers to pull them over.

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    Source: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...pring-speed-trap/story-fnat79vb-1226574886387

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    Source: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...pring-speed-trap/story-fnat79vb-1226574886387
     

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