Are these nazi bars the real deal ?

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    Why would Reich metals carry SS stamps?
     
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    I am by No means a nazi sympathizer, but a collector of rare pieces. I hope some can shed some light on the markings and verify authenticity. Thanks
     
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    I have no idea..that's why I'm looking for somebody with some expertise in this area. My question to you is why wouldn't they?
     
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    What are your thoughts? I'm am open to all feedback.Thanks
     
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    I doubt they are authentic. Likely just fake memorabilia.
     
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    The toning looks fakes
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    Why would they even bother with silver ?
    When they were hussling tonnes of gold
     
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    These is being sold by a salvage company . Who discovered a sunken uboat off the coast of Argentina . They specialize in sycee recovery but found these by accident. I also have 500 gram degussa silver bars stamped with the nazi eagle perched on the swastika, RB, and serial numbers starting with DR (dresdner), and 1943, 1941
     
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    Id be shocked if you could legally sell them if they are real, so much of nazi plunder is not legal to sell, id assume silver bars would be in that basket. I could be wrong but nazi gold is a no no to own or resell.
    Id suspect they arent real though

    To The question as to why would they have silver bullion? It was a strategic war comodity then and still is.
     
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    I agree Hitler was awful person..but I think its very neat historically like you just said. I will post the degussa bars tomorrow and those look amazing. The patina and markings are unbelievable. They aren't like the cartoony stuff on ebay.
     
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    They look like fantasy bars. Wouldn't take them as authentic. For those interested, here's a real Nazi stamp on a gold bar and reichsadler on a silver reichsmark.
    (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...d-hoard-buried-Nazi-era-just-WW2-Germany.html)

    Horrible as he was, Hitler was a mere amateur compared to Stalin and Mao.

    Screen Shot 2020-08-12 at 8.12.35 am.png 1938-F-Germany-5-Mark-WWII-Third-Reich.jpg
     
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    Pure Silver in contact with steel in saltwater after 70 years....

    It might have been originally isolated from steel (submarine structure) due to wooden crates but within a few years wood would have rotted away, no way pure silver bars would be found in that condition.

    Even if the bars were blown away during the submarine explosion and buried in sand, the bars would still have much much more corrosion.
     
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    I have no proof, but they don't ring true for me. The totenkoph (skull) on the first and the SS bolts on the second don't make sense on Reich bars. That straight wing style of eagle I would expect to see with the Iron Cross not a swastika. They try to hard to look gnarly. And as others mentioned the patina doesn't seem correct either.
     
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    U Boat story holds no water, markings look junk, silver a wartime need in WW2....smells like someone trying to pull a quick one.
     
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    Look very fake to me. The SS stamping plus the damage wrought by 70 or so years in salt water also convince me.
     
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    The SS had nothing to do with gold and silver bullion, that was handled by the Reichsbank. Makes no sense to be with stamped with A.H initials and SS insignia. Any Nazi era bullion, would be very rare these days as most would have been melted and re-cast without Nazi stampings to avoid confiscation.
     
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    I agree with that. BUt the last part is incorrect.
    80million ounces of silver was used for wartime reasons 1941 alone.
    The us removed 15000 tonnes of silver from the us fed vaults for the atom bomb project tobe used for the enrichment process, after the bombs were dropped on japan all the silver was required tobe melted back down into bars and put back in the vaults which is was.
    It was and is a strategic wartime comodity.
     
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