Anti-encryption laws: If laws pass, we will all be much less secure

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  1. yennus

    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    How can anyone think this is a good idea?
    Passing legislation today is like picking your own adventure:
    Why do you need this new law? (pick one or more)
    a) To stop terrorism/extremism
    b) To stop money laundering/tax-evasion
    c) To save the children
    d) To stop racism/hate/bigotry
    e) To save the trees/water/air


    https://www.theage.com.au/national/...all--be-much-less-secure-20181205-h18ql6.html

    The new anti-encryption laws (The Age, 5/12) will make us all much less secure in many ways that may be impossible to reverse once the folly has become apparent. From our banking and commerce to privacy, protection from foreign subversion and security forces being weakened, this is a disaster that anyone with senior high school mathematics should be able to comprehend.

    You cannot undo encryption a little bit or only for a few people. The system is either secure or it is not. There is no halfway. I can see how those who can deny the science of climate change can also deny the science of encryption mathematics. The rest of us should be alarmed at this madness.

    Mark Freeman, Macleod
     
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    Just goes to prove that non Govt no matter how jingoistic is on the side of the average citizen. Wonder if they were pushed to do it by our Five Eyes pals.
     
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    The global political class is their own little club. Mundanes are just useless eaters and should be treated like cattle.
     
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    I think you're right. Sudden Labor capitulation looks suspicious.
     
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    Anyone still think The State is a great idea?
     
  6. Shaddam IV

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    Not Five Eyes, it was more likely pushed by their Beijing masters.
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    its just like strip search, you have always the option to not enter
    just like the no fly lists
    how can we tell that you are not the spy
     
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    Rest in piss Australian tech companies.

    Interesting that this is coming about just as new fintech and overhauling bank ICT is now under the microsope
     
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    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The are a lot of private messaging apps, I don’t see how the AU.gov can force overseas based apps to build in back doors to their platforms.
     
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    Exactly. Overseas.
     
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    french Govt increases fuel tax, the populace riot, govt doesn't increase fuel tax.

    it's the only way a govt hears the people. when $hit like this is rushed through parliament overnight with bipartisan support you can be sure the legislation is in their best interest and no one else's.
     
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    Does this cover VPN traffic also?

    Actually we wouldn't know, and neither would the numpties that pushed this through. Saying it's to save us from terrorism is the giveaway.
     
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    They didn’t mention VPN’s in the list I saw. I don’t know if they could - I set up a couple of them easily by simply renting a virtual CPU on an overseas cloud server, installing an operating system and VPN software onto it and I have a private VPN for the cost of renting the server space for around $4.00 a month. I can make dozens of them easily if I wanted to all over the world and so I don’t need to use a commercial VPN service provider. I really only did it to learn how difficult it is to set up. Even Amazon lets you set one up on their servers and offers you instructions to do so but clearly that would be a dumb move.

    Corporations use private VPN’s on their own servers for their staff, they have to so I can’t see them giving that security layer up without a fight.
     
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    It’s good that Australian government is on equal footing with USA, Russian, Chinese and North Korean at last.
     
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    Yep, Australia is a totalitarian state.
     
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    This is just the thin edge of the wedge. Next step is no judicial oversight needed, and every app will either have a permanent back-door or be blocked in Australia.

    The best part is that anyone with some IT knowledge will easily be able to bypass these stupid laws and setup their own VPN.
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    No need to look overseas for commies, we've got our own local lefties here already.

    Here's Every Australian Government Agency That Wants Your Data
    https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/01/heres-every-government-agency-that-wants-your-metadata/
    https://www.righttoknow.org.au/requ...rcement Agency Applications REDACTED.PDF.html


    Includes groups like:
    - Aust. Post Corp.
    - Bankstown City Council

    Because you know, Bankstown City Council is in the business of tracking terrorists, criminals and tax evaders.
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    just need to pay them a visit with your super strong magnets on top of their data servers centers

    who gave them the rights to be tracking you?

    just switch of their power with the lightning
     
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    Reminds me of this scene from Breaking Bad about wiping hard drives in the evidence locker with a jury-rigged high-powered electromagnet...

     

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