Not sure where to put this, but given the fact eBay posts get put here also I thought I would place it here. For those who are unaware American Express has a promotion called shop small for the month of November where you can visit local shops and after spending $20 you will receive $10 back into your account. This works with bank issued Amex cards also i.e. Westpac. To register your cards go to amexconnect.com.au For details about shop small and to see the map of participating stores go to https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/shopsmall/index.html I was able to visit a local pawnbroker who had some silver coins and after some haggling and splitting the bill over a few Amex cards I got some pretty cheap silver (well under spot) for some kooks and florins. Hope this helps others looking for bargains.