All things Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...........

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  1. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I think Ms Ocasio-Cortez is a breath of fresh air. Sure she is young and clumsy but she's raising issues and ideas that need some exposure.

    Drawing the ecological collapse/climate change issue as a matter so serious as to warrant massive mobilisations across the US/World is giving some scale to the issue. She is in her twenties and her thoughts seem to be echoing a lot of her generation.

    On our present path, we've overseen the extinction of almost half the planet's species in the last 50 years or so, and the rate of extinction is not slowing.

    The talking head bureaucrats at Kyoto proposed to act to limit temperature rises to 1.5 degrees, which now appears inevitable, and scientists are expecting 2 degrees before any immediate action taken now would have an effect.

    The planet is a "hot button issue" at last and she is in the perfect position for a generational political upheaval.

    Her raising the issue of lobbyists in Washington is her also belling the Washington cats, since other than publicising the issues, she has zero influence and nothing will change. The same corruption will roll along, but her audience is watching. Fortunately the age of the spin doctor is ending. Social media has ended that game.

    She'll no doubt continue to attract ridicule, much the way the left ridiculed Trump, and look how that turned out.

    Given time and a few more national weather disasters and extinctions (giraffes and lions are at fragile numbers it seems), and her ideas could mobilise the young in 2024 and inspire a 35+ something president.

    The bad decisions of the corrupt and age 70+ presidents, hopefuls and senators could actually ensure it if Ms Ocasio-Cortez keeps to her path.
     
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  2. Shaddam IV

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    Julie I imagine that Jordan Peterson would back you up to some extent, something like: “it’s the job of the young and clueless to challenge the old ways of doing things so that the civilisation does not calcify and is reborn” although he would put it a lot better.

    So in that respect I agree with you, ideas need to be raised in order to move civilisation forward. So in that respect she is just doing her gig as a young idealist.

    I also have no doubt that she is clueless enough that she would crash and burn in a month and she wouldn’t even understand why and would blame it all on the meanies who “like, just don’t get her” and so she only has two possible paths now: She runs her own show and finishes up running on pure idealism with no regard for the complexities of reality and becomes a permenant meme or she becomes the puppet of the old goblins that she currently derides.

    Her problem is that all she has are stale, radical, recycled Marxist ideas that everyone has heard for decades. She is not offering any actual ideas that could be a breakthrough that actually solves problems, she is merely a waking set of bumper stickers from the back of a $500.00 car that belongs to a gender studies “professor”. Until she has something original and useful to offer that isn’t just another “Virtuous Me vs. Evil Them” she is just another clown from the political clown car.
     
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    This brilliant cartoon in an article on Zero Hedge depicts the thought processes of people who believe this stuff from the LEFTIES.

    SOCIALISM.JPG
     
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    She probably got it from doing "insider trading" as anyone in Congress is allowed to do it. If it was any of us doing it we would be charged with insider trading. That's the corrupt political system the USA has.
     
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    The system that Occasio Cortez has in the crosshairs you mean.
     
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    Oh yes I agree and the ideas of youth moving civilization forward, but I'd not underestimate the power of the youth block and the mendacity of the political class in securing their votes. RFK and JFK were in their mid 40s before they were executed. Since then presidents have been older and older and young people are tired of this old and corrupted political class - Bernie closed the door on old democrat candidates and now the younger candidates are pushing through, tired ideas of equality and environmental concern and all.
     
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    The Green New Deal she promotes is completely ridiculous. Banning air travel, giving $$ to people "unwilling to work", requiring "every" building in the US to be upgraded to match green deal standards, etc etc.

    She will actually hurt "the movement". That is good though. She is already causing fellow dems to cringe. And people said Trump was a moron for wanting to build a wall.

    She was celebrating that Amazon gave a big F.U. to New York - no headquarters there now thanks to lefties. The locals will not see those 25,000 jobs. But who needs jobs when you have stupid commie idiots like her promising free $$$ for those "unwilling to work". Wow, she really stuck it to "the man" by helping to chase Amazon away.

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/15/de-blasio-rips-into-aocs-amazon-opposition-working-people-want-jobs/

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...-cortez_is_going_to_get_trump_re-elected.html
     
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    Except that it looks like she already has employed her boyfriend and given him a congressional email addess.

    The Swamp is strong in this one.
     
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    The last time the Democommies went hard left (neo socialist) was in 1972 with McGovern and that didn't work out too well for them (note I'm a big Nixon fan)....yes it's 48 years odd since then, come the 2020 election but a socialist platform ain't going to fly in the US of A be it from AOC or Beto.

    Note 2: Beto has just promised to tear down the wall...lets see him debate DJT on that.
     
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    Fuck Bezos, OUT OUT OUT!
     
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    Typical AOC type of response showing a complete lack of knowledge. The Federal income taxes collected (or not collected) have nothing to do with the state and city where the HQ would be located. Those revenues are paid to the the Fed gov, not the state and city where the company exists.

    The taxes that would matter to a state and city are local taxes (such as local income, property and sales taxes that stay in the state) that would be collected from Amazon and its employees. Having a new HQ there would have spurred other new businesses in time which would have meant even more local and state tax revenue for NY (increase in taxi type services, restaurants, stores, etc.) These are NOT federal taxes.

    The jobs that were to be created included many upper level jobs that would have helped improve local housing market prices by bringing in new people who transferred to that area, etc.

    One of the main objections by lefties was the housing market would go up too much, and something called "gentrification" would take place, which means in non pc terms, improving a place from a old and crappy to more modern, better looking place. Somehow that is bad in the world of lefties.

    Any time a mega company is considering setting up shop in a new place, the new place offers incentives and tax breaks to entice the company to come there. It was projected that the amount of income to subsidies as 9:1 on this deal, thus for every $1 break Amazon got, it would have brought to NY $9 in revenue, etc.

    PS Only 3% of Fed taxes go to "schools and related social service".....

    PSS There is an old saying "don't cut off your nose to spite your face". That is exactly what NY did here thanks to folks like AOC.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...re-do-your-tax-dollars-actually-go/100116866/
     
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    Thanks Oddjob for making the effort to exalt such a person so that we deplorables can get a better look.

    She is just a biopsy of the current of ignorance pouring out of America (and here)

    If the world is going to end in 12 years she and hers are doing more than their fair share of the heavy lifting :eek:
     
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    Nancy needs to sort those dentures out.
     
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    A.O.C is a complete looney, lets be real.
    She doesn't stumble around topical conversation like an innocent child unsure of the content being discussed but shamelessly uses evolving lies to support her warped take on ideologies.
    She's cringe worthy and extremely painful to watch.I pray that the Democrats one day fully support her, they deserve someone of her stature.
    Republicans Ben Shapiro and Candice Owens would obliterate A.O.C in any given Forum save one,delusional self conviction.
    RB
     
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    Shapiro offered AOC a USD10k donation if she would debate him. She note only declined to debate Shaprio as she doesn't "respond to wolf whistles" (go figure that Libtard logic) but said he would have to double the donation it to USD15k. Nuff said !!!! Can't wait for someone to find an AOC IQ test and drop that on the net.
     
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    She said nothing like that.
     
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