Abbott is Incompetent

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  1. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    If you're in power you're safe so they don't care about anything but getting there, and the egos make them believe they'll stay there. And of course the Australian public constantly shows it is easily manipulated.
     
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    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Let's just say, there are two options.

    1. Abbott is under orders.
    2. Abbott is a brain damaged ex-boxer who thinks this will help his polls.

     
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    Murdock decides who governs Australia.
     
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    I was going to say that, just like Murdock decides who governs England.
     
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    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Lot of bad shots amongst libertarians then? :D

    No wonder Howard is despairing.

    and note, the use of "crazed Islamist gunman".

    I thought it was a family court issue he wanted to sort out.
     
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    Anyone able to find any info on exactly what Leyonhjelm has traded away? All I can find is the same news article repeated a dozen times.

    His website has this:

    The LDP's policy on immigration is fairly straightforward on the matter, basically: encourage the free movement of people, establish legally binding agreements, the establishment of a user-pays immigration fee, maintain an asylum policy, relax detention but tighten access to welfare. More in line with ALP amendments than Liberal if you ask me.

    Can't see too much "trading away" personally.
     
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    Sounds like he's traded away a small part of the state's advantage on weapons capability.
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3IaKVmkXuk[/youtube]
     
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    Its a good laugh, but yes sad.
     
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    Major disaster, but at least he's killing off the informal vote.
     
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    Here's one thing at least that's been achieved despite all the hand-wringing and whining. Currently back at 2006-07 levels with more hopefully yet to come. Bring it on. :)

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    Now have to rein in the ridiculously large pay packets of non-SES Commonwealth public servants in the ACT who have been receiving rise after rise whilst wages in the private sector have been stagnant. Especially for the relatively unskilled/inexperienced staff whose wages nowadays are far higher than their private sector equivalents.
     
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    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Coda to this thread:


    History is going to see the last 15 years as a total disaster in Australia's leadership. Here's hoping Turnbull and the rest can restore some dignity to politics and actually inspire some actions that are in the national interest.

    That's goodnight from me, and goodnight from him.
     
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    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Turnbull is a bullshitter. He has no opinion of his own, he'll compromise with the Devil if it means winning.
     
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    When, in late August, business, union and community leaders put aside their differences to discuss future policy directions at the National Reform Summit, the response from Abbott was muted.

    The event was, in part, a response to the paucity of real debate under his leadership. Perhaps he was also wary of the summit, because of the involvement of Craig Emerson. The former Labor minister was a co-convener, along with Nick Cater, the executive director of the Liberal-friendly Menzies Research Centre.

    If the nonpartisan tone was a problem for Abbott, it was tailor-made for Turnbull. He and Sinodinos paid close attention. And so he was quick to reply when the leaders of the Australian Council of Social Service, the Australian Council of Trade Unions and the Business Council of Australia wrote to him last week, offering him an update on the issues where they had found common ground.

    This week, Turnbull invited the summit's leaders to Canberra to meet him, Sinodinos, Treasurer Scott Morrison and other economic ministers.

    Options that had been ruled out by Abbott were back on the table at the three-hour talks on Thursday.

    There were still evident differences among the groups including on tax levels and the GST but there was a willingness to continue talking across all topics. A government that was prone to shutting down debates is now reopening them.

    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au...lm-turnbull-plan-the-coalition/14437944002460
     
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    3 months ago: "My pledge today is to make this change as easy as I can. There will be no wrecking, no undermining, and no sniping."

    Today: Tony Abbott unleashes public attack on Julie Bishop


    I think we're going to be hearing more from Abbott and his small band of backers in the future. He was furious about being ousted and is not happy at all about the narrative that is growing around the story of his downfall as PM.

    Stay tuned.
     
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    Great, special interest groups intent upon forcing as many political favours as they can. :rolleyes:

    Democracy at it's finest - lobby, threaten, bankroll, coerce. Rinse and repeat.
     

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