Abbott and Turnbull the worst economic managers since Menzies

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  1. Old Codger

    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    My 58 is in answer to your 57.

    Maybe e bit cynical, but IMO the voters of the world are to blame for the mess ware in.

    They INSIST on free stuff, and vote for it.

    OC
     
    Old Codger, Jun 20, 2016
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    Bread and circuses.
     
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  3. Old Codger

    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    YES!
     
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  4. precious roar

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    Correct!

    And that applies to both sides of the political spectrum.
     
    precious roar, Jun 20, 2016
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  5. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Here's an interesting read on the new paradigm:

    Bread and circuses and no criticism.

     
    JulieW, Jun 20, 2016
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  6. Old Codger

    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    @pr,

    Agree!

    OC
     
    Old Codger, Jun 20, 2016
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  7. Stoic Phoenix

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    ^ Why would you advertise with someone who criticises you irrespective of if they are right or wrong?
     
    Stoic Phoenix, Jun 20, 2016
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  8. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The pull quote probably explains it:

     
    JulieW, Jun 20, 2016
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    ^ I fail to see what point you are trying to prove here other than the newspapers are weak.
    Again I state why would you advertise with someone who criticises you?
    There are many forms of advertising available today outside of newspapers who will happily take your marketing $ and not criticise you.
    Its hardly the clients fault if the newspaper has a conflict of interest between reporting and advertising.
     
    Stoic Phoenix, Jun 20, 2016
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  10. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Basically because I believe in the independence of the press, and the vain hope that honest reporting would inform the population. Up until the Boer War, the Times was the ultimate honest resource for events. The corruption of the media for propaganda is now well honed and I'm probably naive thinking there is any point hoping that the population will be informed, and make reasonably informed decisions.

    Quote from the newsletter that opened my eyes to this issue currently.

     
    JulieW, Jun 20, 2016
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  11. Old Codger

    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    The Australian (and international) media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the ALP/socialists!

    The ALP is the "political arm of the union movement".

    ...and the public are stupid enough to lap up the bullshit!

    OC
     
    Old Codger, Jun 20, 2016
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  12. mmm....shiney!

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    I was actually agreeing with what you wrote. Maybe I didn't make myself clear :lol:

    Both sides of our political debate are as bad as each other, the left and the right. Both sides are only interested in gaining and wielding power at the expense of someone else.
     
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    Nah, Xtacles!
     
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  14. errol43

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    Fox News and CNN support the ALP/Socialists...:rolleyes:

    You got two out of three right..You are getting better OC.

    Regards Errol 43
     
    errol43, Jun 21, 2016
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  15. Old Codger

    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    It was a general statement, and the 'right' are grossly outnumbered by the lefties.

    ...and no need for the childish little point scorers thanks.

    OC
     
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    What do I have to go for a knockout now! :(

    Regards Errol 43
     
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  17. SpacePete

    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    From a gov. website:

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    Src: http://www.acma.gov.au/theACMA/media-interests-snapshot

     
    SpacePete, Jun 21, 2016
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  18. Shaddam IV

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    The ABC is owned by the Greens, even though they don't pay for it. Where is that on the diagram?
     
    Shaddam IV, Jun 21, 2016
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    The Greens own the ABC?
     
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  20. JulieW

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    A tried and true bias:

    But bias has occurred.


    But of course The Guardian is a lefty socialist rag and they would say that wouldn't they?
     
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