500th Anniversary of Russia State - 6 Coin Proof Set, Price Check

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    Maybe somebody is familiar with Russian Proof Coin Sets,
    If you will be offered with a 500th Anniversary of Russia State - 6 Coin Proof Set in a box with missing COA, How much is the price acceptable in USD?

    I appreciate your help, thank you.
    500th Anniversary of Russia State - 6 Coin Proof Set.jpg
     
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    woah, didn't know about this set.
    mmm...something to put on my wishlist, I guess.

    To be useful,
    (disclaimer: I am not an expert on Russian proof sets)
    Given it has missing COA, I'd consider collecting it by pieces
    checking not only Ebay, but 'Russian' auctions prices, as well.

    For example,
    the set contains 7,78 g 900/1000 gold 50 roubles
    Found here (scroll down for the history of the auctions)
    http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussrub/catalogussrub13799.asp

    foto Name Type Auction Buyer Bids Final Price(Rub) Date
    Screenshot.jpg

    the set has 2 of 31,1 g 900/1000 silver 3 roubles
    I just found one of them here(scroll down)
    http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussrub/catalogussrub13902.asp

    15,55 g fine platinum 150 roubles
    http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussrub/catalogussrub13923.asp

    15,55 g 900/1000 gold 100 roubles
    http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussrub/catalogussrub13800.asp

    31,1 g fine palladium 25 roubles
    http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussrub/catalogussrub13929.asp

    31,1 g 900/1000 silver 3 roubles
    http://www.fcoins.ru/catalog/catalogussrub/catalogussrub13903.asp
    (no data for this one)

    My second step would be to search, if I can buy the whole set in Russia
    and check the price there.

    Example #3
    http://mosdragmet.ru/nabory-monet/354-500-letie-gosudarstva-nabor.html
    (english and other languages link)
    They want 165k

    Finally, I would not buy anything from Russia or Russian seller without
    exercising extreme care.
    (Applies to online and f2f)

    gK
     
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    Thank you very much for the reference, it is a good help. Roughly, i just wanna know the market price because i checked an Ebay seller which was so extremely expensive and he was selling for 4,500 USD, Does It mean it is justifiable for the price of the set. This is my first buying intention on Russian coins. The coin set i am buying is ready for pick up in one of big coin store in South Korea.
     
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    Can only talk about bullion, I am not much into numismatics.

    I have been observing over 200-300% difference in prices of Russian commercial banks
    (in Russia banks sell bullion and numismatics, namely Sberbank)
    and the prices on Ebay.
    For your set, you'd have to do some research.
    Good luck with it.
     
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    According to Russian Auction prices reference on the above, if combined all, taking consideration from the lowest bid: The set will cost for 2700USD.
    gK, It is really useful idea as a plain reference in calculating for expected price :)
     
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    Herewith the actual photo of the coin which he offered to me, (disclaimer) .... the coin is not yet mine. No COA.

    Russian Coin Set.jpg
     
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    Yeh, this corrseponds with the last link I provided.
    It had a quote of approximately 2861USD for the whole set.

    However, you would need to understand bullion/stacking/collecting in Russia is not as popular
    as in other countries. There is no mature market and the prices are strictly indicative.

    :re your picture
    Google shows the set in different box
    (not sure if there was more than one type)
    https://adacoins.ru/online_auction/23/7831
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    Why are you collecting Ruski coins ?
    Russians don't collect modern Russian coins
    Only pre 1896 are collectible by Russian ,& everybody hates the last Tsar when it comes to coins
    Russian coins are hard to sell in the secondary market unless pre 1896
    I wouldn't pay much over their bullion value especially since there is no COA
     
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    Ohhh, Now i know. I will check that as well. I been in Vladivostok couple of times but i wasn't able to seek for Gold coins, Next time, will try to check the banks you mentioned earlier.
     
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    Lots of crap there :)

    Any proofs of the statement you have made?
     
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    Because the price is bullion value, for 2000Usd if cash, Also due to curiosity upon checking the price in the net :). How do you think for the price?
     
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    If you like them buy them
     
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    Ignorance.

    And no proofs. Usual fart on the forum by spannermonkey
     
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    Really ? So you know what I have bought & sold
    How about you spend your $ on Russian coins & come back in a couple years
     
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    Really, and I can prove it.
    Your remark is nonsense.
     
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    Thanks Spanner Monkey, If i visit back Melbourne, much easy to source bullion or bars.

    For now bullion in S. Korea is really hard to find, I was looking for gold Korean tiger, Koreans are not fond on bullion coins as i observed.
    Probably, i will pass HK to pick some.
     
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    I'd be buying whatever sells easy locally
     
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    Go on
     
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    Still waiting
    there is 1 modern coin that gets a premium,
     

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