2020 Collapse

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  1. TreasureHunter

    TreasureHunter Well-Known Member

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    Uneducated Economist believes that it's not so much the high supply of money that will destroy the USD, but the low velocity of the USD.
    He believes that the Fed is printing to maintain that velocity and "keep the USD afloat".

    Once the velocity drops down, the dollar will be less traded, thus, its value will fall.

    I think that velocity will have to be higher and higher in order to "keep it up". It's like when you need more and more and more Viagra. Until you get a heart-attack :D
    The more countries, businesses and people "ditch" the dollar, the lower its velocity will be. Then will hyperinflation come.

    Inversely, I think it is in fact the growing velocity that is keeping some cryptos up. Once Bitcoin has reached enough members, it will have enough velocity (practical use must be assured) on order for it to survive
    and to not keep collapsing.

     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    cryptos has weekness, its not instance, when you expect to get paid, its now. not a second minute half hour later
    its not medium of exchange, it can go up and do many things, but there is costly fee invloved, so its not desired when you want to buy/sell 1000 times
    with USD, you can quickly spend it, but with digital Yuan, how to quicky get rid of it, can't just drop the mobile phones
    no wonder Palladium that is hoarded by Russia is going up in price, not so much is being traded in USD
    anything traded in USD would enjoy the gravity pull lol
     
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    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    That’s why he’s uneducated.
     
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    I like to listen to all points of views. The uneducated are less indoctrinated in some ways and can have a different opinion of stuff.
     
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    In his case it’s the wrong opinion.
     
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    Some are predicting a crypto crash soon. If you look at the charts, you can see that most cryptos appear to be in their 2nd or 3rd big bubble.

    Besides Bitcoin, Ethereum and many others look like the should take a breath soon: correction coming?
     
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    yer fighter planes, war machines, ammo, and cargo ships during war times are just teleported to their destination, definitely no need for battle ships in this era of teleportation, because isnt that how stuff goes from one continent to another these days? . lol
     
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    there is costs being built inside the movements, so fee is way higher when volatility is high
     
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    They can ship them by train.

     
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    I'm not making any prediction but if cryptos were to crash, silver will rocket.
     
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    across oceans?
     
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    Transhumanism. First time I heard of this term. Yes, i know, they have created half monkey, half humans in labs. The vaccine is some gene therapy.

    https://thenewamerican.com/covid-shots-dna-transhumanism-with-dr-madej-2/

    She spoke about Avatars. Yes, I watched the Matrix. So maybe cryptos will work when that time comes since there's no need for cash since there are no people by then. It's all a computer program. :D
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    human that is no longer mortal, it is very close
    first mentioned was 20 odd years ago
    just can't die even if you want to, it will pass 120 years
    age of robotics, droids in Starwars
    Avatar Ang, in air bender
    only the brain left, just like the borgs
     
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    I didn't watch the video but velocity has been a talking point with financial professionals for years. Obviously declining velocity, price levels, treasury yields are all linked together.

    Exactly the same patterns being seen in many traditional markets. What do they all have in common?
     
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    Thats right, but velocity is an outcome not a cause so it can’t cause the demise of the USD
     
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    France on the brink of civil war?

     
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    Builders are stopping building. On the other hand insurers are stopping insuring. Does that mean house prices rise or fall?

    DJIA trading bots are clearly pricing in mega profits on the back of commodities. I reckon they might soon learn about supply and demand.
     
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    Insurers are approving claims hand-over-fist because the Federal government is subsidising payouts.

     
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    no, sides lawyering up
     
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    Not where I live
     

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