1987 Billy Meier prophesied events we seeing now in France & the EU

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  1. Skyrocket

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    Billy Meier the only genuine UFO contactee correctly prophesied the start of what we are now starting to see in France and he said it would only get worse. To the skeptics, they should take note that the copyright date of my Meier book is 2004 which is before IS/ISIS/ISIL ever existed.



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    1987 Meier prophesied -

    "Switzerland will also be severely affected, but will not be the actual target; this will be France and Spain. However, the main objective of the aggressors will be to bring all of Europe under their military control, and for that purpose France will be selected to be the headquarters. France will not only be invaded by the aggressors from the outside, but will also be conquered from within as a result of collaborative forces and other forces. This can be envisioned as being the many foreigners of a different religion living in France at that time, and specifically Islam, which will be this force working from within. Once France has fallen, a war to conquer Spain and England will take place..."



    " And it will be that the fanatics of Islam will rise up against the countries of Europe and all will shake and quiver. Everything in the West will be destroyed; England will be conquered and thrown down to the lowest level of misery. And the fanatics and warriors of Islam will retain their power for a long time. However, not only Europe will be affected but ultimately all the countries and peoples of the Earth, as the great horror expands to a war that will encompass the entire world..."





    For anyone thinking "How do I know Meier actually said that in 1987?". Well, here is the hard copyright proof from the 2004 Meier book called "And Still They Fly" which is way before these events happened and before there ever was an ISIS/IS/ISIL -



    First here is the book still up for sale on Amazon and notice on front page it says it contains "The Henoch Prophecies" -






    And Still They Fly! Paperback February, 2004


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    http://www.amazon.com/Still-They-Fl...1442536907&sr=8-1&keywords=and+still+they+fly


    My book -


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    And here are pictures of that/my book that I have had since then (pardon me ciggy paper) -



    The copyright page -




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    The pages containing those mentioned prophecies relating to the events in France and the EU -




    EU aggressors 1-min.jpg



    EU aggressors 2-min.jpg



    There is the hard copyright proof from the 2004


    Should there be any questions about the specific, prophetic accuracy in Billy Meier's warnings about Islamic terrorism it should be noted that in 1958 Meier said this in a letter he sent to all governments of Europe -




    Warning to all the governments of Europe!

    83.) And it will be that fanatical Islamists carry out bloody revenge on the distant descendants of the Christians, for their earlier crusades when they accomplish their deadly and destructive acts through irrepressible terror all over the world.

    http://www.theyfly.com/1958-warning-all-governments-europe-prophecies-and-predictions



    Now we see this in the news after the Paris attacks that left 129 dead on Sept 2015-

    Which is echoed exactly in this quote in the Daily Mail:

    Paris attacks leave 129 dead

    ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attacks across Paris, saying "eight brothers wearing explosive belts and carrying assault rifles" conducted a "blessed attack on Crusader France".

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eople-shows-musician-hiding-drums-escape.html



    And -




    In 1981 Meier published:

    "Italy and France will be shaken, due to *Sansculottes, who murderously and by arson destroy every order: Paris will be destroyed from within and burnt down. The inhabitants themselves are those, who lay Paris into rubble and ashes via murder, arson and revolution, while Italy also falls due to massacres..."








    Here are two excellent Billy Meier documentaries -





    Contact - 'Billy' Eduard A. Meier Documentary by Wendelle Stevens (1978)







    2007 - The Silent Revolution of Truth - Full length Billy Meier Documentary
    Writer/Producer - Michael Horn

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    Scientist astonished at Billy Meier's prophetic accuracy

    Formerly skeptical professor, physician and physicist endorses extraterrestrial contactee Billy Meier's predictions about Russian troop movements.





    Have an open mind and you be the judge if the case is legit.




    And the entirety of Meier's Henoch Prophecies can be viewed towards the bottom of this page -


    https://www.silverstackers.com/foru...russia-will-attack-conquer-iran-turkey.65845/


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  2. systematic

    systematic Well-Known Member

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    Travis Walton abducted in 1975 is another interesting encounter involving "tall whites". They also get a mention as those alleged entities regarding the Nazi regime (think tall blonde blue eyed aryan type) and now driving US foreign policy as described by Charles Hall ex military, Paul Hellyer ex Canadian Defence Minister and most recently Edward Snowden ex NSA whistleblower ....
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toFkU3OK7pI[/youtube]
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE1xcYXTZJI[/youtube]
    UFO Crashing Releases Orb Over Southern California.
     
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    As long as there isnt a "red" under your bed .....
     
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    UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens
    THE United Nations was set today to appoint an obscure Malaysian astrophysicist to act as Earths first contact for any aliens that may come visiting. Mazlan Othman, the head of the UN's little-known Office for Outer Space Affairs (Unoosa), is to describe her potential new role next week at a scientific conference at the Royal Society's Kavli conference centre in Buckinghamshire.

    She is scheduled to tell delegates that the recent discovery of hundreds of planets around other stars has made the detection of extraterrestrial life more likely than ever before - and that means the UN must be ready to coordinate humanity's response to any "first contact".

    read more at http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...ntact-for-aliens/story-e6frfku0-1225929498742

    I dont know if its a full time or part time position ..... the UN must have a lot of time on its hands ....
     
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    Does he come with a COA signed by the aliens?
     
  10. systematic

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    You would have to ask the United Nations .... its a big club and we arent in it ....
     
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    Hi systematic,

    I used to also think the Travis Walton UFO abduction case was true until I found the Meier case 15 years ago.

    Unfortunately according to Billy Meier the Travis Walton UFO abduction case was a hoax. TW and his friends decided to fake it for publicity and fun and then there was a CIA effort to make it into a big budget film (fire in the sky) to generate false UFO abduction stories - so as to generate negative publicity against UFOs. And there were other fake UFO contact/abduction cases to keep people fearing ET's AND also to keep people away from the Meier case which the CIA (and other governments, agencies and religions) fear people will find out about. And it worked. One thing to keep in mind is that all these other so called UFO contactees have NO PROOF whatsoever other then their word, where as Meier has 5 categories of physical proof which has all been authenticated as legit by top scientific experts in their fields, and then there is also all the corroborated material in the Contact Reports which documents all the conversation Meier has with these ET's about world related events. These are all published in copyright form since 40 years ago and they are still getting published as Meier continues to speak with them.

    Here is Billy Meier walking in front of one of his UFO clips that was scientifically authenticated. This was before the age of home computers.


    Wedding Cake UFO(video & audio synchronised): Billy Meier Case (1981)




    IBM scientist Dr Marcel Vogal doing an an analysis on the metal samples and crystals using his electron scanning microscope and said that he could not put these together himself as a scientist. He concluded the samples were not Earthly made.

    Billy Meier Contacts - Marcel Vogal Analysis



    Forward to the 32 minute mark in the video below to see conclusion of Dr Marcel Vogal's Analysis on metal and crystal samples to hear his startling conclusion.


    The above two videos were taken from the Billy Meier 1978 film "Contact" which was a 5 year investigation into the case where all his physical UFO material was taken by an investigation team to have it tested by many different top scientific experts. It all came back legit. Much more in the film below. Unfortunately no TV station ever showed this film. Wonder why.


    Contact - 'Billy' Eduard A. Meier Documentary by Wendelle Stevens (1978)

     
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  12. systematic

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    From the thousands of cases ultimately we only need one to be true ...
     
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    Skyrocket Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Unfortunately a lot of people jumped on the UFO contact/abduction bandwagon just as the CIA planned. It worked.

    In a survey something like 1-2% of Americans believe they were abducted/contacts with aliens.
     
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    Either way, that earth ambassador job is a pearler ....
     
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    ozcopper, by saying the Billy Meier case is for LUNATICS to believe in, you are in effect saying that all these top scientific experts who tested Meier's physical UFO material as being authentic are also LUNATICS. You are also saying that Billy Meier is a GENIUS in MANY fields to fool all these top scientists and organizations.




    Scientific Experts' Comments on Meier's Evidence



    David Froning: At the time, Dr. Froning had already spent 25 years as an astronautical engineer at McDonnell Douglas in highly classified military defense and, in 1979, became interested in Meier's accounts of Plejaren starship travel, which mentioned tachyon propulsion. Dr. Froning found Meier's account of tachyon propulsion (which was only beginning to be discussed by a very small and select group of theoretical physicists), and his calculations for above light speed travel to be amazing. In 1983, he was pursuing his Quantum Interstellar Ramjet idea (JBIS vol. 33, no. 7, July 1980; AIAA 81-1533, July1981; IAF-85-492, October, 1985) and plugged in his Quantum Ramjet performance equations, assuming: a given starship density, vacuum energy conversion efficiency (in transforming positrons and electrons within the quantum vacuum into photons), and vacuum energy conversion scales of distance of the order of the Compton wavelength. The resulting vehicle acceleration enabled achievement of almost light speed in about 4.3 hours and deceleration from light speed in about 4.3 hours. Meier said that the elapsed time during the "hyperspace jump" took only several seconds. Thus, trip time between the Pleiades star cluster and Earth with Froning's slower-than-light Quantum Ramjet Drive plus a hypothetical tachyon drive would be 8.6 hours, which was within 20% of the Plejaren trip time reported by Meier. But, while Froning's calculations were based on many arbitrary assumptions, and in no way proved the truthfulness of Meier's account (since it was a theoretical system he was working on, only time will tell as to which are correct) Froning was somewhat startled that his arbitrary flight time computations were within 20% of the flight time mentioned by Meier. Regarding the Meier material, Dr. Froning also publicly stated that, "My colleagues and I may have made breakthroughs in our understanding of possibilities and ways for traveling faster than light from Billy Meier's accounts of his encounters with the Plejarens." He also said, "If what this Meier is saying is just a hoax, he's being cued by some very knowledgeable scientists. I've only discussed this Meier case with scientists who are fairly open-minded about interstellar flight, but I'll tell you, the majority of them think it's credible and agree at least part, or sometimes all, of the things talked about by the Pleiadians." (Pleiadians/Plejaren name of Billy ET contact friends)

    Eric Eliason: U.S. Geological Survey in Flagstaff, Arizona, created image-processing software so astrogeologists can analyze photographs of planets beamed back from space, spent two years producing the intricate radar map of cloud-covered Venus acquired by Pioneer 10: "In the photographs there were no sharp breaks where you could see it had been somehow artificially dubbed. And if that dubbing was registered in the film, the computer would have seen it. We didn't see anything."

    Robert Post: JPL photo laboratory for 22 years, was the head of that lab in 1979, and oversaw the developing and printing of every photograph that came out of JPL at the time: "From a photography standpoint, you couldn't see anything that was fake about the Meier photos. That's what struck me. They looked like legitimate photographs. I thought, 'God, if this is real, this is going to be really something."

    Dr. Michael Malin: Principal investigator for the Mars Orbiter Camera on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft at Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS), San Diego, CA. Analyzed Meier's photographs in 1981: "I find the photographs themselves credible, they're good photographs. They appear to represent a real phenomenon. The story that some farmer in Switzerland is on a first name basis with dozens of aliens who come to visit him ... I find that incredible. But I find the photographs more credible. They're reasonable evidence of something. What that something is I don't know." Malin also said, "If the photographs are hoaxes then I am intrigued by the quality of the hoax. How did he do it? I'm always interested in seeing a master at work."

    Stephen Ambrose: Sound engineer for Stevie Wonder, inventor of the Micro Monitor radio set and speaker that fits inside Wonder's ear, analyzed the Meier sound recordings of one of the UFO's as it hovered above him. Not only was he unable to duplicate the sounds with synthesizers, he found they created totally unique patterns on a spectrum analyzer and on the oscilloscope. Another sound engineer named Nils Rognerud corroborated Ambrose's findings. Think about this for just a moment, these experts, using state-of-the-art equipment, were unable to duplicate the sounds and the unique patterns they generated.

    Wally Gentleman: Director of Special Effects on the Canadian Film Board for ten years, director of special photographic effects for Stanley Kubrick's film 2001, had viewed Meier's 8mm film segments of the UFO's. Showed that the manpower and costs to fake the films were clearly beyond Meier's reach: "My greatest problem is that for anybody faking this" (referring to one of the photographs) "the shadow that is thrown onto that tree is correct. Therefore, if somebody is faking it they have an expert there. And being an expert myself, I know that that expert knowledge is very hard to come by. So I say, 'Well, is that expert knowledge there or isn't it there?' Because if the expert knowledge isn't there, this has got to be real."

    Nippon TV: Did their own examination and also came to the conclusion that there were no models, special effects or hoaxing involved in Meier's films.

    Marcel Vogel: Research chemist for IBM for twenty-two years, held thirty-two patents, and invented the magnetic disk coating memory system still used in IBM disk memories. A specialist in the conversion of energy inside crystals, Vogel probed crystalline structures with the most complete optical microscopic equipment available in the world - a system of scanning electron microscopes costing $250,000. Lieut. Col. Wendelle Stevens, USAF (Ret.): One of the original investigators in the Meier case. In 1979, he sent Vogel crystals and metal samples Meier had received from the Plejarens. Vogel reported, "When I touched the oxide with a stainless steel probe, red streaks appeared and the oxide coating disappeared. I just touched the metal like that, and it started to deoxidize and become a pure metal. I have never seen a phenomenon like that before." Of another metal sample containing nearly every element in the periodic table, Vogel stated, "Each pure element was bonded to each of the others, yet somehow retained its own identity." X-ray diffraction and spectral analysis revealed both Thulium and Rhenium. "Thulium exists only in minute amounts. It is exceedingly expensive, far beyond platinum, and rare to come by. Someone would have to have an extensive metallurgical knowledge even to be aware of a composition of this type", said Vogel. At 1600 X Vogel said, "A whole new world appears in the specimen. There are structures within structures - very unusual." At 2500 X he found that the sample was, "metal, but at the same time ... it is crystal!"

    Vogel put the full weight of his expertise in these summary comments: "With any technology that I know of, we could not achieve this on this planet! I could not put it together myself, as a scientist... And I think it is important that those of us who are in the scientific world sit down and do some serious study on these things instead of putting it off as people's imagination." Again, here is another top-level scientific specialist who is unable to duplicate the material presented to him by Meier.


    http://theyfly.com/Scientific_Experts.html
     
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    The sheer mathematics of probability says in the vastness of the known universe we are not alone .....
     
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    Being a scientist doesn't stop you from being a lunatic, anyone can go to Uni.
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLiTSdaN8bM[/youtube]

    Jordan Maxwells UFO encounter
     
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    Compared to what Galileo and Copernicus had to put up with .... this is a cakewalk .....
     
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    I'm all for the existance of aliens, positive of them in fact,
    however calling yourself the world's only UFO expert then prophecising what is essentially islamaphobia I'm left feeling a little 'Meh'

    No way an army of Islam will immobilize and take Europe. It is a completely retarded motion. Even with the 15/20k Isis troops and the 40 odd tanks they stole it's a laughable notion. Pretty sure it would be hard for the US to slip them a navy unnoticed.

    All this is doing is making this dude look like a crack pot, oh and he believes in Aliens, but that's cool with me.
     

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