Personally, I have to ask myself what this sellers motives are! To fill you in on the play please draw your attention to this sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/281016530561?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Fake! Of course it is. The seller knows it as well. Yet they list it with some Bullshit story about a deceased estate...... What a con. While the hooks are baited for all the Noobs, they also sleeeze their way out of doing no wrong by adding in the sales pitch "It looks good but think that the number is changed" (this is only my opinion). They got that right. If this seller had a dinkum 1930 penny they wouldn't have started auction @ $15.00 that is for sure Now if I was to find a penny of this date, it would be straight down to a good coin shop to confirm the find, after the researching, and cementing my own knowledge to the coin if a copy, I would never lower myself to selling this type of coin without stipulating it was a fake. I hope no noobs here are bidding on this hunk of copper junk :| Unfortunately I can not change the price or outcome of this auction, much as I wish too...... but all the warning signals are there to be questioned......confirmed fake
Yup... Would be good to highlight what you have identified in the coin. Good future reference for anyone else. I also love it when people say estate sale. Then you see they are selling individual coins separately. Yeah good one. You can advise the seller that you believe it is a fake. That way you are not accusing so to speak. You can also report it to ebay as a fake as well. Up to $510 already. That is a lot for a piece of fake copper.
the seller has said its a cut and paste job on the "0" on the 1930 date, so really its stupid buyers you need to be angry at for being so stupid edit: who in their right mind would sell a real 1930 penny on ebay
Well you could say it plays a part of our Numismatic heritage. As this is an early forgery by the looks of it. So from that perspective it may hold some collector value. Not sure on the legality of it all though ?
It's counterfeit currency, which makes it a job for the AFP currency team. Stupid stupid stupid of the seller.
I don't believe so. Modern forgeries are done by electroplating or punching. Some older ones are done from castings as well. This is an old technique described in "Collecting and Investing in Australian Coins and Banknotes" the copy I have is a 1990 version. I also have older references to this process as well. It could be wrong, and always happy to be corrected, but I do think it is an older version.
What's the bet the sale goes through, Ebay collects their fee and absolutely nothing is done about it. Anyone got a hotline number or Email address you can report this to? An anon email to this auction I'm sure would be more than enough - if we knew who to send it to. Counterfitters are a scourge and should be thrown to the wolves. EDIT : Found it www.afp.gov.au/contact/report-a-crime.aspx How do I report a crime to the AFP? You can report a Commonwealth crime online by using our form. - Link : https://forms.afp.gov.au/online_forms/report_a_crime Anonymous information If you would like to provide anonymous information about any crime (State, Territory or Commonwealth crimes) please phone Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000 or go to www.crimestoppers.com.au. http://www.afp.gov.au/policing/counterfeit-currency.aspx
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If you're going to blow that amount of money on a coin you've never seen, without any type of research, i reckon you deserve to lose your money.
FAKE> it looks like an altered date to me. I know the legends need to line up with the denticles "little bumps on the rim" but cant remember the positions. I could look it up i guess. I dont own a genuine 1930 btw. http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php?option=1930_penny The N in OMN is English mint if between the denticles like the coin above. The overwhelming majority of genuine 1930s Pennies is from the Calcutta mint in India. And it just screams fake. Clear fields on the obverse, center diamond, 6 pearl + and then a well worked reverse dont add up either, Fake and some poor sucker is out of pocket for half a grand at least. All Pre Decimal is still legal tender in this country and still protected under our counterfeit laws.
Best way to deal with it is phone ebay on and report the seller Go to: http://ocs.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...5318672521&convId=0&ContactCsResultsPage=true Choose call us, then phone 1800 322 928 and quote the passcode given to report the member.
I'm sorry but neither eBay nor the (AFP) Currency Team would be interested in this case. It's good commission for eBay and it's no longer legal tender so no one is going to care. I got an email one day from a former eBay seller from China saying if I want 1930 pennies they were $3 each and I could buy them by the 10s, 100s, 1000s, or 10,000s and they were made from melted down pennies so same composition and they would be tumbled into a circulated condition (F) - (VF). Of course I just black listed that email address but they are out there and there is not much enforcement on the forgeries so I would not even touch an original personally due to the unfortunately tarnished reputation of them.
Just got off the phone with ebay myself after reporting the seller. In future, simply: Select "Report the Item" on the listing page, then select the following categories as shown below: This report will then be forwarded to ebay's fraud department.
