In your opinion is this person trying to scam me and how/why, on ebay.

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  1. CFP

    CFP New Member

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    I have an item I need to move.
    I haven't had it listed too long but I have tried to sell it elsewhere and I was expecting it to be a lot easier to sell.
    Anyway I had a bloke contact me, alarm bells are ringing.
    He wants the watch at the starting price which is a good deal for him and an acceptable but not great deal for me.
    The item has generated interest ie people watching it, questions etc but I want to move it.
    He has one feedback, the alarm bells are ringing at this stage when he messages me.
    He offers me full starting price and postage but can only pay via bank transfer as he does not have an ebay account.
    He has also admitted that he has purchased some items on ebay, changed his mind about them, not paid and had his account
    unable to bid because of this.
    If I give him my bank account details and he puts the cash in, is there any chance once the funds clear that he can get the cash back?
    Ie I do not want to send him the item and then have him make some bs claim and the bank return the money while I am out of pocket
    and minus the item. Can this occur?
    Because he cannot bid I will be out of the ebay system.
    I guess it is similar to someone buying something on here via bank transfer but I just want to cover all my bases before I respond.
    He was upfront about the above info and admitted he did wrong with the other sellers.
    I just want to know if anyone thinks this is a scam and the reasons why, the reasons are what I am looking for here.

    Thanks.
     
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    hiho Active Member Silver Stacker

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    run awayyyyyyyyyy
     
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    If he cannot bid, it is by design. He screwed up.

    Don't deal with him, report the activity to eBay.
     
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    Appreciate the answer mate but can you elaborate?
    My brother is a massive seller on ebay (business) who literally moves hundreds and sometimes thousands of items a day.
    He always prefers people to pay by bank transfer due to paypal fees.
    But something is fishy here and he is in China at the moment so I cannot get a hold of him for his advice.
    I would not send the item until the funds were sitting in my bank account for a few days but want to ensure
    that there is no way he can keep the item and have funds returned due to it being outside of ebay.

    I was talking to H here btw.
     
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    GF Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Pay by bank deposit outside of ebay is a mistake. Agree to run away.
     
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    Don't risk it.

    If it were me, I would just tell him that I don't do anything outside of the ebay system. Sorry.
     
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    Run far far away.
     
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    I dont get it?

    If you can receive the money via bank transfer, get the cash on your account, wait for available balance, withdraw it and at your power send the goods to provided address via registered post?

    Did I not read or miss any part there? Or is there a feebay policy its criminal against the law to get the funds directly into your account and withdraw just in case to feel secure and send the goods to buyer?

    I dont see any suspicious activity. Please inform me if I need to learn anything about what I have said (if somehow its wrong)
     
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    + 1 as silverbait said

    that is what happens here in the sales thread , same scenario , whats the problem

    as long as it is cash paid in to your acc ,

     
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    If he pays with bank transfer his changes are slim to get back the funds if any problem would occur(especially if his bank is suncorp-been there with them)

    if he is willing to transfer the funds directly to your bank account mine as well just ask him for an off ebay transaction and then you are 100% safe
     
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    BTW whats the item we might be buying it anyway..!
     
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    I agree, if he's outside the eBay system he can't leave you -ve feedback if you ship late.
     
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    Use or intuition ... or ignore it and go ahead and test it ...
     
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    I would never deal with someone like that for all the reasons you've already noted in your original post. Just re-read your own post and ask yourself why on earth would you want that headache....are you really that desperate to deal with someone like that?

    This seems to be more about you than about that bloke.



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    I don't get it either you got the cash in you're account and he can't open a case with eBay or PayPal against you it's a win win situation for you

    Unless I'm missing something which I don't think I am

    Not mention the 13% fees are waved

    If you're worried withdraw the money the banks can't make you pay if you don't have money
     
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    Sounds like a limited-time auction-style listing? Ends within 10 days, if not sooner, assuming?


    If so, why not let it run its course, give yourself the chance to get a higher price (oftentimes lots of bids in the last day/hour/minute) -- and if it doesn't move, then go from there?


    If it's pretty much impossible to get his money back that way, then I'm leaning towards doing the deal (if the auction ends with no bids).


    P.S. Isn't there a non-PM Buy/Sell/Swap thread around here..? ;)

    http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-68418-goods-for-barter-thread-october.html
     
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    I don't want to post specifics (explaining how you could become a victim explains to crooks how to perpetrate the scam) but you could become a victim of cheque fraud here.

    Available funds is not the same as cleared funds.

    Just don't do it.
     
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  19. Gatito Bandito

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    Specifics not needed, but more of a rhetorical question that perhaps the OP could look further into..

    In the AUS system, is it remotely possible to claw back cleared funds?
     
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    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Very difficult, and in some cases the bank will only return funds with the permission of the recipient, if they decline to return the funds, you may need to go through a civil action to get your money back.

    Generally if money is misdirected into the wrong account people just give permission for it to be removed from their account.
     
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