gold coins versus bullion

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  1. geuze

    geuze New Member

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    As an investment, is it better to buy gold coins or bullion?
    My budget: $3000

    Thanx
     
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    Gold coins are bullion,

    or you mean proof coins?
     
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    if you can find decent numi coins at near bullion prices (old sovereigns or 1800's US gold eagles), at say spot plus 10% I would go that way since the downside on spot is a big question mark at the moment and they won't fall like straight bullion.

    If you wait until gold hits $1000 usd then bullion might be the go if your in the states, the lower premium the better. If your almost anywhere else it's more complicated.
     
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    With bullion I meant bar. Coins versus bars.
     
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    Gold coins, gold bars are still bullion.


    Only some gold coins will hold its premium. ie Perth Mint Lunar gold coins.

    Some old vintage bars. All depend on individual.
     
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    If you want to invest some of your money in physical gold (not certificates) instead keeping it in a savings account with the intention of being able to sell it if necessary, what would you buy? Gold coins or bars. With gold bars I mean ones of 20g, 50g, 10g or 1 ounce.
     
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    Bars are taking too much space (ceritcard). Go for well recognized coins.
     
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    if you don't have much then $3000, even in coins, isn't going to make you rich. I would suggest maximising your money and getting the most metal you can. In your question that means bars and typically avoiding the higher premium bars such as PAMP/Englehard etc depending on where you are in the world.
     
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    Try 1 oz of each.
    1 x Perth mint gold certicard
    1 x Perth mint kangaroo, or nuggett.

    and then you'll have your answer !
     
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    ^^^ What Raven said.
     
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    Check the price of a one ounce gold lunar coin at todays price and the issue price.

    1oz gold lunar coins are released once a year and the mintage is only 30,000 coins.

    All of the coins from 2008 to 2015 have sold-out.
     
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    If you have $3k the problem will be to keep premiums for bullion as low as possible whilst getting fractional amounts - picking numismatic value and bargains is a whole other problem.

    If you can find Sovereigns or half Sovereigns at under 5% that might be interesting, but to throw a whole different bullion idea into your pot, what about $200 gold coins (1980 to 1996) from RAM? If you are near enough to a refiner (someone like Ainsley or Perth Mint) they have buybacks of these, otherwise destined for melt, at very low premiums in 10g lumps. Gold is Gold.
     
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    Buy small gold coins.
    Less easy to counterfeit.
     
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    I think your probably right, particularly as he says he's using it instead of a bank account. Nobody wants savings where they can only cash out one half at a time.

    If the premiums are low enough I think the $200 gold coins are a great idea.
     
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    But the only counterfits i've ever seen were coins. I think a 1oz abc bullion bar would be hard to counterfit compared to a gold kangaroo which they could just plate. You see fake coins all over alibaba.com
     
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    Small being 1/4,1/10th.
    How are you going to slip tungsten into it?
    Otherwise its the wrong dimensions to weight.
    Tungsten is too hard to ppress properly.
    Much easier to slip something into a bar and then reseal, the edge being flat

    People can counterfeit, but not undetectably.

    And small is good.Who counterfeits $5 notes?
     

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