Received fake silver from silver stackers forum member OTIS

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  1. deardoc

    deardoc Member

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    That test was on a REAL 99.9% silver coin as a control test. Test on the fakes was not photographed. Monopolize did comment on each photo
     
  2. Nabullion Dynamite

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    I would like to see one of these cut in half. Not that I don't believe the test but that would be the untimate proof!
     
  3. Ronnie 666

    Ronnie 666 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    You can set the device to measure 0.999 gold, silver, Pt. Pd, Rh, Cu. You can also set Au, 22k (91%) and 90% as well as Ag 0.925 and 0.9.
    Once set the bar needs to between the [ ].
     
  4. Captain Kookaburra

    Captain Kookaburra Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Given that this guy is in Melbourne, the best approach is to take the darn things into Gold stackers for a definitive answer. They may be legit.
     
  5. Ronnie 666

    Ronnie 666 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The PM varifier has some advantages over XRF as plated items will fail. No need for US. I think these are very unlikely to be real. I think taking them to Goldstackers is an excellent idea.
     
  6. monopolize

    monopolize Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    No problems. I've got stuff there I need to pick up so I'll bring them in, hopefully I'll get a chance to do it tomorrow.
     
  7. Ghost Story

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    acid test is a good idea if it is plated in anyway the acid will rip off the plating revealing more than likely copper coloured alloy. 5 $ off ebay for the acid bottle.

    I used it on a bar I bought years ago when starting out within seconds of the acid hitting the bar there she was copper coloured alloy, so in the bin with the bar :(

    be interesting to see what would happen.

    good luck with a resolution :)
     
  8. mmissinglink

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    Since no one seems to have answered your question fully, let me take a try. Not ever owning any kind of PM varifier like the one from Metalytics but having seen a video a while back on it being used, the "Silver - 99.9% Pure" wording that you see in the LCD display is merely an indication of the selector setting. It's not describing the actual physical item being tested but simply indicating the selector setting. What describes the item being tested is only the brackets and the vertical bar within the brackets / arrow outside the brackets below the "Silver - 99.9% Pure" selector setting.

    I hope this clears up that part of your confusion.



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  9. mmissinglink

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    It is very important that we find out if the rounds are real or not. There should be further authentication done as others have suggested. We may learn a couple of things including but not limited to: that either the rounds are real or not and consequently that the PM Verifier can give faulty readings if it turns out the rounds are authentic real silver .




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  10. Torcan

    Torcan New Member Silver Stacker

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    make sure you are using the right setting
    there is 92.5 Silver, 99.9 Silver and 99.99 Silver on the PMV
     
  11. lshallperish

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    Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
     
  12. Court Jester

    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    eray benson this sentence makes no sense at all.

    I dont believe he knowing ripped you off but you should ahve gotten a 2nd opinion before posting about it int eh forum.
     
  13. finicky

    finicky Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    ^^^
    Nope, perfectly justified in my opinion. Also protects other potential buyers.

     
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    That sentence makes sense if you are a zyzz worshiping bb.com misc'r.
     
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    For those interested, he's replied and said

    "They use eddy-current/ magnetic Induction, to penetrate deeper, so it reads through the box but not deep into the metal like Ultrasonics would do.

    If you need to penetrate the whole bar then UT would be necessary."


    But with UT you cannot test through packaging or capsules and you will need physical contact using a wet coupling agent too. UT for bars 100%, PMV for smaller/packaged stuff. PMV good for coin dealers.
     
  17. monopolize

    monopolize Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Popped into Goldstackers today, XRF result:

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  18. Gilligan

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    So... How do you find OTIS??
     
  20. Caput Lupinum

    Caput Lupinum Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    It's a nice buffalo for a silver coated copper buffalo
     

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