History is in the making right now...EU set to dissolve within 5 years

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  1. lshallperish

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    The National Front has come first in France's elections to the European Parliament according to exit polls in what PM Manuel Valls has declared a "political earthquake".

    Eurosceptic parties appeared also to have made big gains in other countries, coming first in Denmark and Greece.


    UKIP leader Nigel Farage said his party was on track to win the European elections, which "will be an earthquake because never before in the history of British politics has a party seen to be an insurgent party ever topped the polls in a national election".


    Golden Dawn, Greece'sextreme Right party, looked set to enter the European Parliament for the first time after winning between 9 and 10 per cent of the vote, exit polls showed on Sunday.


    The party, which denies accusations that it is a criminal organisation following neo-Nazi ideology, was Greece's third most popular party in the election and looked set to send three MEPs to Brussels.


    "Golden Dawn is the third political power in Greece, it's the only party that shows such a steep rise," said Ilias Kasidiaris, the Golden Dawn spokesman who is known to have a swastika tattoo on his upper arm, at party headquarters following publication of exit polls.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...den-Dawn-set-to-join-European-Parliament.html

    Could this affect silver prices for the better? We were hoping that the american dollar crashes and burns but instead we are having this.
     
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    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    well within 5 years!
     
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    Argentum Well-Known Member

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    Greece sextreme party where do you sign up?
     
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    This is not on her current website but I remember the original article proposing that Deutsche Bank was pushing for a 'northern' Euro - being a German sphere of currency influence.

    I think the Euro is for the chop but Rickards says it's safe.

    Not sure which way to tilt at all.
     
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    The establishment will fight tooth an nail to prevent any form of dissolution. UK referendum 'maybe' in about 3 years - apparently it's hard to ask the question of the people in such a way to get the result they want! They asked the Irish to approve the Lisbon treaty - and when the answer was no - quickly went back again, strong-arming the middle classes into turning out and forcing a yes result.

    Sadly, the EU Superstate is here to stay - short of a revolution - there is little that can be done. Right now - Farage/UKIP and their continental brethren are minor irritants.
     
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    awww. and I was half looking forward to the American Union and the Australasian Union.
     
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    Oh,.. really?...

     
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    Rule no.1 never trust anything on zerohedge without careful checking even then doubt it.

    Over the years it's been around and it's been terrible.

    Whatever happens it's all by design, they're a lot lot smarter than us mere folk, all roads lead to depopulation, totalitarianism, microchipped population.

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    They're going to break a few eggs to get there and in some places it might take a while. But FEAR will drive the world and beg for their rule.

    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
    Thomas Jefferson
     
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    I've seen many opposition 'euro skeptical' and 'extreme' parties passing the revue, and the closer they came to power, to more they abandoned what they called for when striving for votes.
    Would it be different this time?
    I rather see only one end to the EU: a similar one as the Warschawpact some decades ago. And the worst part has yet to come.
     
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    "The establishment will fight tooth an nail to prevent any form of dissolution."


    Agree, but in the end they will fail. If the PIIGS are allowed to leave it will be an admission of failure and tehy will NEVER do that. They are more fanatical than a 'Global Warmer', and their socialist dream will die in the dirt before they do. But fail it will.

    It is every bit as illogical and indeed insane as the US and Japan and Chinese economies. ALL a house of cards waiting for a strong breeze.

    JMO


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    LOL sextreme my bad
     
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    What's annoying is that these people do not want black people or any race to enter Europe yet for thousands of year's they have built the very foundation of Europe by using other peoples resources..
     
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    What evidence do you have of that?
     
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    Read their manifestos.

    The National Front in most countries are openly anti-imigration, England has stopped their "Send 'em back" rhetoric but has found that Euro bashing is more palatable to the voters than the British National Party's previous stance. Which is probably why UKIP are doing better than the BNP.
     
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    not sure about "black", but Turkey has been trying for years to join the EU, but have been fobbed off.

    I will let you guess why.


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    There was a large Turkish population in Germany, mostly labourers and the Germans were not happy to have them (except for the cheap labour), not sure how it is now but this was back when I was living there in the 80's.
     
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    BRUSSELS, Belgium The appointment of Italy's first black cabinet minister was a cause for celebration for anti-racism campaigners in Europe.

    Their joy was cut short by reactions to Congo-born Cecile Kyenge taking office.

    "This is a bonga bonga government," said Mario Borghezio, a member of the European Parliament representing Italy's Northern League party. "It seems to me she'd be a great housekeeper, but not a government minister."

    Borghezio's comments were widely condemned within Italy and across Europe.

    Yet in the days that followed, more outbreaks of racism illustrated what activists denounce as a trend of growing intolerance fueled by Europe's economic crisis.


    In Athens, authorities clashed violently with a Nazi-influenced party whose electoral support has soared.

    Fans shouting racial abuse of black players halted a match between two of Italy's top soccer teams.

    "There is definitely an exacerbation of negative perceptions of migrants, and ethnic and religious minorities, with the current economic crisis," said Georgina Siklossy, spokeswoman at the European Network Against Racism, formed by campaign groups from 26 countries.

    "It's become common to accuse migrants and ethnic minorities of stealing jobs, benefiting from social services and abusing the welfare state," she said.

    Pan-European figures on racism are hard to come by, due to differences in definitions and reporting among national authorities. Support for openly racist or anti-immigration politicians is on the rise in several countries, however, and activists report a rise in hate crime and discrimination.

    Greece, the country hardest hit by the euro zone crisis, has emerged with serious racism problems linked to the rise of the Golden Dawn party.

    The Nazi-inspired movement saw its support rise from 0.3 percent in 2009 elections to 7 percent last year winning 21 seats in parliament with the slogan: "So we can rid this land of filth."

    Its black-shirted followers are blamed for several of the 154 incidents of racist violence documented last year by Greece's Racist Violence Recording Network, which was set up in 2011 with support from the United Nations' refugee agency.

    In the latest high-profile case, a 14-year-old Afghan boy was left with severe facial scaring last week after a beating from a group of men dressed in black, one of whom attacked him with a broken bottle, Greek media reported.

    "Democracy in Greece is seriously threatened by the upsurge of hate crime," Nils Muiznieks, the Council of Europe's commissioner for human rights, said after a study visit to the country early this year.

    "Rhetoric stigmatizing migrants is widely used in Greek politics."

    Greece is a special case, says Ioannis Dimitrakopoulos, of the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights, who rejects the idea of a generalized increase of racism across Europe resulting form the economic crisis.

    "The economic crisis does feed into a variety of reactions and racism is one of them [but] it's quite localized and depends on specific local conditions," Dimitrakopoulos said from the agency's headquarters in Vienna. "The data we have does not indicate a general movement across Europe."

    He points to the lack of a Greek-style backlash against migrants in Spain or Portugal, where the economic crisis has also taken a heavy toll.

    In northern Europe, he says, anti-immigration parties have suffered losses in recent Dutch and Danish elections.

    Traditionally a country that exported emigrants, Greece attracted an immigrant influx during good economic times in the 1990s and 2000s. Its location on Europe's southeastern flank has also made it an entry point for undocumented migrants and asylum-seekers from Asia, Africa and Middle East heading into the EU.

    The sudden arrival of newcomers combined with the economic collapse since 2009 have created a perfect storm for racism to develop in Greece. But there are warnings the prolonged recession is whipping up prejudice against minorities elsewhere.

    "In Europe we see rising intolerance; growing support for xenophobic and populist parties; discrimination," Italy's Foreign Minister Emma Bonino warned in speech this month.

    "Fear and prejudice are being spread across Europe mainly by nationalistic and demagogic groups, who are exploiting the current malaise and social despair," Bonino told a conference on the state of the European Union.

    GlobalPost in-depth: Echoes of Hitler

    Data published last year by the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights showed ethnic minorities face a high level of hate crime in countries across Europe.

    Eighteen percent of sub-Saharan Africans and a similar number of Roma Gypsies suffered assault, threats or serious harassment, according to the agency's survey carried out in 2008 across the 27 EU nations.

    Beyond far-right parties like Golden Dawn or Hungary's anti-Semitic Jobbik, anti-racism campaigner Siklossy says more established politicians are increasingly scapegoating migrants and minorities.

    She says that ignores the positive contribution migrants make to European economies, particularly in countries where declining birthrates are leading to a growing number of pensioners dependent on a shrinking labor force.

    Without new immigrants, the labor force would have contracted between 2000 and 2010 in Britain, Luxembourg and Italy, according to a report last year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

    Siklossy cites studies showing migrants in France make a net contribution of $15 billion to state tax revenues and that Germany's Turkish community adds $49 billion a year to the country's economy.
     
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    I am Turkish but Australian born. I know.. for like 20 years or something they been trying to join.. I dont get why you allow Greece a country that need's to be spoon fed always but not turkey a country that refused to turn there country into an Islamic law even though they have been harassed by turkey's neighbors to do so not to mention the great military they have and overall wealth..

    Do the good thing about them not joining EU is that they use the currency Lira which is dirt cheap when you compare it to euro.. so the holidays are always fun there haha
     
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    "I am Turkish but Australian born."



    I hear this sort of thing quite often, and the attitude behind it gives me the shyts!

    I have 3 half 'Greek' grandchildren, born in Australia, and they looked us in the eye and said "I am not Australian, I am GREEK". Their father, and other grandparents, have never even BEEN to Greece.


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