Just checked my RCM wildlife coins in mint tubes as a stacker PM'ed me looking for some without milk spots.. i assumed i had and upon looking through my rolls.. discovered EVERY SINGLE ONE had some kind of milk spot infection, either the rims, the observe or reverse.. that's 100%.. now i am starting to think about the monetary cost i have lost due to this milk spotting.. 4 rolls - premium = HEAPS! Just as i was crying myself to sleep i randomly checked my 1/2 oz SILVER BULLION COIN OZ-US ALLIANCE COIN tube to discover the majority of these have also got milk spotty... i cant really sell these at the premium i bought now also = losses. Moral of the story.. dont risk buying high premium coins as the potential to get burnt by imperfections is high.. when i get Perth Mint product that milks its a signal to stuck with pre decimal nad stay away from "legal tender" you pay premiums for that you lose the second they milk.. Extremely disappointing yet i don't hold a lot of milky stuff overall so could be far worse.. i feel for RCM enthusiasts who must be sitting on a mountain of losses... 1for1
The only Canadian coin series I have for novelty is the wild series and has been resisted the temptation since then to get others like the artic fox, falcon, etc (even I would like to have themm though) I think I personally moved to the third phase in stacking cycle (numis -> semi numis -> bars -> vintage bars the ultimate) ha-ha-ha
RCM's bullion coins are the worst when it comes to those undesirable milkspots. When will they ever get their act together? Has anyone bought any 2014 CML bullion coins? Milk spot problems with these too or no?
For what its worth I have lots of RCM Maples, Wildlife etc and milk spots are fairly rare. You guys are very unlucky or your environment is affecting things much more but I thought milk spots were due to a process and not a storage issue. Maybe there are good and bad coins issued and some dealers buy the sub-quality ones at a reduced price ? Not sure the RCM screens for quality as they reckon they are selling by weight only.
That's the main reason why I'm staying away from any RCM product I store all my coins on vacuum sealed bags like below, I'm wondering if this can help preventing milk spots on RCM coins
Problem not restricted to RCM products I have milkspots on some of my Somali Elephants, Phiharmonics, Pandas as well as the Xag Buffalos Nearly every roll of lunar mice and rabbits that I have been buying lately has a few coins with rim toning.
I think you have the right stacking strategy by sticking to 50cents Whether it's toned, clean or dirty, the premium stays around a $1 a coin
Agree... Also never seen a milky ase. I can tolerate burnished style toning due to antique time line aging.. Can't go wrong with pre decimal and low premium stuff and bars .. So many examples of the mine field of overpriced mint stuff they should really care far more than they do and give consumer choice they will continue to lose market share if they don't respect our investment dollar Philharmonic's Nz silver fern rounds Elephants First majestic everything Pandas RCM everything Perth mint aust us alliance 1\2 coins Xag milking is news to me ... All or just one of the styles? Please hit me if I am tempted to buy overpriced silver in the future unless antique
I dont think it will prevent it from milk spots as milk spots are developing due how the coin was minted(handled at minting) I believe. Furthermore if the cap was open-which u wouldnt know-there could led to a problem also. But its a nice packaging though
I didn't mean that, just reporting what my eyes have seen and those milky ASEs were even sold to someone here in the forum.
According to this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJSwKe5Ev8 Some good tips on removing them too. Guy here says its Borax which is a flux that is used in the smelting process, thing is borax is usually water soluble, I know for sure its water soluble as I have a pound baggie of this in white powder form for the purpose of soldering in my cupboard. I can only guess if the spots wont dissolve in water that the borax must be contaminated with some other material from the process as borax is rather reactive with various substances but not usually volatile. Borax is also hygroscopic so I have to keep it in an airtight jar to prevent it soaking up airborne moisture and turning into one big crystal lump. And as you most of you are in Oz I will also tell you that it was once sold as a cure for arthritis in the middle of the last century in Australia, the man who sold it for this purpose approached big corporate companies to market it which led to him being fined for selling poisonous substances. I will also state borax has a long history of medicinal use being a naturally occurring salt so make of it what you will. Its also great for cleaning laundry, curing athletes foot and has been banned from retail sale in the uk as a laundry additive or any thing else afaik. E2a: Clarity.
I have received 50 canadian 2014 coins so far and all have been milk spot free I'm happy to say. 2013 was god awful, I'm surprised none of my customers complained. I did advertise milk spots are highly likely and I think that saved me. lol
