VINTAGE SILVER BARS

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  1. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Cooling marks. Somehow a perception that these marks make a bar more valuable has crept onto the forum in the last month or two.
     
  2. swoydaz

    swoydaz Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Thank you for this info GP.

    I have read yours and others comments which rightly say something like "beauty being in the eye of the beholder" and remind myself to reflect on those words.

    The so named "swirly" pattern is quite appealing to me as it says something about the process of manufacturing a silver bar.

    I wouldn't pay any more for such a bar, but again that's a personal thing. But I do like them quite a lot.

    I don't see anything wrong with someone calling them "swirlies", "curlies" or whatever.

    If we dislike a member or dislike their style we all have the option to move on to the next post.

    Isn't this more about the agro a small number of members harbor toward each other?

    I haven't been here that long but seem to recall there being some kind of directive that we restrict our comments and questions to the matter at hand and not to enter into banter or side swipes at other members.

    Personally I enjoy a bit of light hearted banter, which technically I shouldn't post.

    Even though tempted to buy into some threads I choose not to as it can only inflame an issue even further, which I don't think is helpful when all we should be trying to do is buy and sell metals??
     
  3. bull_bear

    bull_bear New Member Silver Stacker

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    Just a clarification G.P.
    I understand that a standard 'blob' bar isn't made any more valuable with Swirls/cooling marks,
    (Stackers buy these to buy silver as cheap as possible / maximum their ounces per $ outlay)

    But I would have thought these cooling rings might add an extra uniqueness factor to rare/vintage bars.
    If you are buying old vintage bars, isn't part of the premium you are paying for the bars "look", "character" and "uniqueness"
    don't the swirls potentially add to that?
    Or would you make no distinction and purely value the bar on the brand/rarity of the bar?

    Would be interesting to see a simultaneous auction of the two bars in post #16
    Would anyone pay a premium for the top bar? I think I would bid a (small) premium on the top one if they were auctioned side by side.

    Disclaimer: I have never owned a swirly bar
     
  4. strenue

    strenue Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I like this idea and would very much like to see the 'shiny bar' in a head2head with the 'swirly bar'.
    I know which one I would prefer to own.
     
  5. spannermonkey

    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Anybody who thinks that paying extra for a shwirly bar :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Especially the 10oz PM :lol:
    The cooling marks are NOT WORTH A PREMIUM :D
    It's the early PM bars with odd weights that fetch a premium
     
  6. Eureka Moments

    Eureka Moments Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Chip the Rip.
     
  7. DanDee

    DanDee Active Member Silver Stacker

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    So "swirls" or "cooling marks" are just another term for shock-waves?
     
  8. DanDee

    DanDee Active Member Silver Stacker

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    will you be replacing it with "shock-wave"?
     
  9. alexisio

    alexisio New Member Silver Stacker

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    Just bar(s) will suffice.
     
  10. bigcountry

    bigcountry Member Silver Stacker

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    I honestly had no idea of the controversy I was about to unleash when I pointed out that one of these bars had swirls! Sorry guys, lesson learned!
     
  11. Newtosilver

    Newtosilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Got these today, two consecutive serial numbers. They look really old, lots of toning on them.

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    The Australian and New Zealand Metals Exchange Company? I need glasses.........
     
  12. Newtosilver

    Newtosilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Can anyone provide any information on the above bars? Anything at all would be a bonus.

    Thanks in advance
     
  13. VRS

    VRS Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    These are mid-to-late 1970's bars - and very nice too!

    ANZMEC was the AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND METAL EXCHANGE COMPANY - which was a sort-of cooperative venture between a few Aussie & NZ co's in the 1970's - much of their product was melted down as the silver price rose to a peak in 1982, so these are actually fairly scarce now.

    I have had a couple of the 100g ANZMEC SILVER ROOS through my mitts in the last year, both bought for around $100-125 each and which have now found new homes in UK & US.

    he did a great video of one of the 100g Roos here - check it out

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    If you ever want to part with these I'd definitely be interested to buy one or more ;)

    Cheers,
    VRS
     
  14. VRS

    VRS Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Thought I'd better post this here whilst I remembered - just sold on Feebay for $202

    Importantly, check out the inverted '1' and 'A' substituted for 'I' & 'V' of 'SILVER' on the stamp - as rare as they come...

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  15. Newtosilver

    Newtosilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    VRS thanks for your response, really appreciate it. Good to have some background, they are older than I thought. Bars will go to my sons when they are older with instructions they are to be passed to my grand kids. Will they actually do it? I hope so but probably not.....
     
  16. VRS

    VRS Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Haha! You should probably sell them and put the proceeds in to Bitcoin/Litecoin - or do what I'm doing, which is spending my kids' inheritance (as bloody-well as often as possible lol!)

    Cheers,
    VRS ;)
     
  17. bigcountry

    bigcountry Member Silver Stacker

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    Anyone recognise the dcl stamp on this Harrington bar?

    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/10599_20131125_154019-1.jpg][​IMG][/imgz]
     
  18. bull_bear

    bull_bear New Member Silver Stacker

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  19. bigcountry

    bigcountry Member Silver Stacker

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    Hope it doesn't mean silver plated like on of the suggestions in that thread!!
     
  20. strenue

    strenue Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Bigcountry, I have a Harrington with very similar stamps, including the DCL.

    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/10741_20131125_220555-1.jpg][​IMG][/imgz]
     

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