France bans shipment of gold & silver through mail

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  1. Caput Lupinum

    Caput Lupinum Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The new legislation can be found on this website , where under Chapter I, the following Article D1 of the universal postal service and the postal service obligations is:

    "L'insertion the billets de banque, the pices et de metaux precieux est interdite dans les envois postaux, y compris dans les envois valeur dclare, lesson envois recommandes et les envois faisant l'objet de leur formalits attestant dpt et leur distribution. "

    Loosely translated the law says that inserting banknotes, coins and precious metals is prohibited in mail. That includes insured and registered mail shipments.

    http://silverdoctors.com/france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail/

    http://translate.googleusercontent....130605&usg=ALkJrhg1x_4oM7cxSE66PdV9GpAPZ4hxyg
     
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    Caput Lupinum Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I'd just like to take the time to offer my services as a personal courier should such a ban come into existence in Australia. No questions asked ;)
     
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    That also includes notes and coins.
     
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    They've banned bullion, coins and notes in Australian mail too. The ban has been there for years.
     
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    OOP's I am a serial offender then :p: and there are quite a number of co-offenders just this week , F$%K you Mr lawmaker and enforcement officials, F$%k you very much. :D We need a thread of stupid laws.
     
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    The ban in Australia is only to overseas but not to each other within Australia, also to get bullion insured
    you would have to write "Industrial Metal" and not Silver, Bullion etc on the description as they don't cover that.
     
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    No, it's for domestic postage too.

    http://auspost.com.au/statutorydocuments/generalpostalservices/Frame.htm
     
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    62.1.13 coins, except coins up to a limit not exceeding the face value of $A200, lodged in the registered post service for delivery within Australia; or

    So kooks etc are fine legal tender for the win
     
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    In addition Australia Post's definition "Bullion" excludes coins from being bullion:
     
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    there's the same kind of law here in Japan
    though you can send money via special mail using the same facilities of Japan Post.
    international shipments are the same - they do not take the parcel if there's coins or banknotes ... write "medal or numismatic item" and you can send whatever you like - no one going to open the package.

    May be this law will hit those bullion dealers that have to sell officially and ship via Post Service and have to sign up shipments of PM as such ... may be it will be a stimuli for the local coin shops to offer bullion ...
     
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    I was wondering why I only seem to get medals and metal samples.
     
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    Is this the groundwork to making PMs illegal?
     
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    Here are a couple of quotes from Australia Post website regarding prohibited goods:

    In Registered Post within Australia, Australia Post accepts banknotes or coins to a maximum face
    value of $A200 in any one consignment. However, Australia Post accepts no liability for the loss of
    or damage to any such notes or coins.

    Bullion is lump or bulk metal, pure or impure, refined or unrefined. Bullion includes ingots but
    excludes manufactured items, such as jewellery.
    Australia Post prohibits bullion in all services.


    The paragraph about bullion seems faintly ridiculous to me, as a number of large mints in Australia use Australia Post.
     
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    IMO it's a case of willful ignorance on the part of mints, dealers and Australia Post.
     
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    It's already 'forbidden' since decades to send jewelry, coins gold/silver and anything of bigger value, including banknotes/whatever, along State Mail or sponsored private shipping companies that focus on regular all around stuff. The higher value shipping (UPS etc) being a dedicated alternative.
    It still happens of course, and alot. They just don't check, only that IF something gets lost, or some robbery takes place, you lost the value, and they may even sue you in case it inflicted them pain in some way (robbery economical damage/human injuries).

    I guess the Silver Doctors Club (that seems, as usual, to be again the original source here) had to spread just another next hype story.
    Imagine you're a Silver Doctor. You surf the web, you read some stuff here and there, searching for anything decades old upto yesterday that can be twisted into some precious metals related hype story with a "*Breaking news" above it.
     

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