When history look's back on this term of Labor gov't I do hope those responsible will still be behind bars. Fat chance I know but it really is where they deserve to be. http://pickeringpost.com/article/the-bestlaid-plans-of-mice-and-women.../1385
SC, "the brain dead who intend to vote for Gillard anyway." As a highly bemused resident of Tarneit, firmly in the Peoples Democratik Elektorate of Lalor, in general conversation with friends, I am forever amazed at the gullibility of our neighbours. They look at me as if i am an alien when i point out some failing or other of the socialists, gillard in particular. The suggestion that she is a liar is beyond them, and they have NO knowledge of the AWU scam/fraud at all. I am quite sure they are not even aware that Labor IS socialist!! And komrade juLIAR can do no wrong. Trying to get them to change their vote is a waste of time and effort. AND i will guarantee that Tony Abbott will be fighting for his job in 6 years, no matter how well he does. OC
"The Australian Labor Party is a democratic socialist party and has the objective of the democratic socialisation of industry, production, distribution and exchange" (ALP CONSTITUTION) I doubt that many ALP voters even know this exists.
The wheels on the blue wheelbarrow are turning fast today. What new war are you going to back so that we can get far more refugees to keep this issue on the agenda? IMO Refugees from countries where we have been involved in wars should be given priority over economic refugees from other countries. Refugees from Vietnam settled in Australia and have proved to be hard working and loyal to Australia. Why not do the same for Afghans and Iraqis? What will Tony do to stop them coming? Will it be the same as John Howard. He turned back one boat and 200 died. Oh! how the memory fades. Australia has a minor problem compared with the USA and Southern Europe.. Hundreds of thousand pour into their countries every year as economic refugees. Maybe Clive Palmer has the answer? Regards Errol 43.
Great opening line "The Poms may be dumb but..." Maybe I don't have the context right, I haven't read this guy before so I don't know but I can imagine it would be like me starting a conversation by saying "The Australians might be a bunch of dole bludgers but I could really do with a nice cup of tea!" Mind you I also don't get the reference to Mr 457 or have the faintest idea who McTernan is either. And I believe I am going to be forced to vote in September, I should probably do a bit more reading
Er...people who are not threats to our security? Yes, it's a complete waste of money: we pay ASIO to be paranoid so their false positive ratio on security threats jumps up, we pay the detention centre to lock up the refugees, we pay two sets of lawyers - one to argue for the refugees and one to argue against them - we pay the tribunals and courts to check everyone's procedures and paperwork and after all of that it usually turns out that ASIO or the AFP or whoever doesn't have any actual evidence that the person in question is any more dangerous than you or me. There are much cheaper ways of processing asylum seekers and we choose not to use them because it's convenient for both the Left and the Right to have something to argue about and distract everyone from real issues that actually affect people in this country.
Some refuges that NZ accepted were processed within a couple of months.. We beat the kiwis in everything else, why not on refugees.. Would save us heaps of $$$ Regards Errol 43
They are threats to our security however ASIO can't bring their evidence to court as no one involved in the court case has the security clearance to view the evidence. And the evidence can never be published. So they are forced to let genuinely bad, bad eggs in. They say it's all about their human rights but what about my human rights? Is there a right to not have ones' country infiltrated by unrepentant killers?
What makes you think you'd have any rights at all if people can be imprisoned without charge for an indefinite length of time on the basis of evidence that's so secret nobody is allowed to see it?
What does that even mean, "it's my country"? Do you own this entire landmass? Or is that you get to say what does and doesn't happen on it?
Of course not. One can express themselves however they choose. And I choose to object to the unopposed arrival of people whose presence is detrimental to the existing inhabitants, inhabitants whose ancestors built the place from nothing to something.
All I know is that if by a miracle Labor wins, I'm going to get three years of wasted money and policy ineffectiveness. And if the Liberals win, I'm going to get a 15% GST with no reductions in taxes other than the Carbon Tax (you think that will be a fair offset)? Labor - kick in the balls. Liberals - kick up the arse. I feel sorry for the mooks on this board that thinks there is an actual difference in the desire of both parties to screw over ordinary Australians.
^^ You mean inhabitants whose ancestors were considered a threat and whose presence was detrimental to the existing and (ab) original inhabitants? Whilst I generally agree that our borders should be much more closed (despite being an immigrant myself), the way you put it really doesn't sound great when contrast against the past ....
I don't think they considered the success of a society/country by what was built (theirs or ours since), but rather its people's happiness and a harmony with the land.
