Negative interest rates?

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  1. Ag bullet

    Ag bullet Well-Known Member

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    This thread aged poorly.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    Negative rates were never going to happen.
     
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    Of course not. Taking account of the current trends... It's more likely we're going to sink down Turkey-Lebanon style or, even worse: Venezuela-Zimbabwe style.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    Not a chance in Australia or the other wealthy economies.
     
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    up 0.25%….’ fat cats’ are happy.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    They've been working overtime putting pressure on the RBA. And it's worked.
     
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    bubblebobble2 Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    4 banks raise them to 0.50% or 0.70%….?

    oh, happy days to be fat cats!
     
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    Yep, banks get to double dip. They now get paid more interest from the central bank, plus they will charge borrowers higher interest for loans.
     
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    bubblebobble2 Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    ^^^
    thank god we got $250 from ScoMo!

    he gets my VOTE!….NOT!
     
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    leo25 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I didn't even get that! ScoMo needs to GoGo. Replace him with some other half-wit, got to love the illusion of choice.
     
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    bubblebobble2 Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    didn’t you get ScoMo $250 splash-cash? You must be earning heaps!
     
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    bubblebobble2 Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    CommBank - strike #1!

    next…!
     
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    slap another 0.50%…..woohoo!
     
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    hardyakkagold Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Negative home equity for those who borrowed too much is next on the cards;)
     
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    What you will find is only tiny tiny tiny minority of mortgage holders are in potential pain now or will be. But the headlines of media is heavily influenced by the views of the "want generation" so have outsized influence on headline.

    80% of people with mortgages or own the home outright reads these headline and thinks for a moment "Yike that must hurt" than reads the next headline without a care.

    Of course when property price fall, people spend less but the idea of SHTF is unlikely.

    Exception been "this" is occuring to the individual at the moment or soon likely ie job loss, brand new maxed out mortgage with less than 15% deposit..... But this is true even in the boom times

    https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2010/jun/1.html#:~:text=The estimates of turnover from,of dwellings (Graph 1)

    According RBA 500,000 property are sold per year (new and exisitng)

    Only 5% of of mortgages are less than 0 to 2 year old, first and/or investment/upgraders/downsizers -> 100% concede they could get into negative equity but majority of them bought in a BOOM or or soon after the Covid Crash and took huge risks!

    Only 15% (20% if 1 to 2 years above is incldued) of mortgages are less than 2 to 4 years old, first and/or investment/upgraders/downsizers. Likely only losing thier job will stress out these mortgages

    30% of mortgages are 5 plus year old. Maybe losing their job will stress out these mortgages but likely sell for decent profit even in a declining market and take a breather,
    50% of mortages are 10 plus years old. Anyone selling these mortgages will make a motza even at the peak of housing price down turn and could go on a holiday and still have enough for a new depsoit when they get a new job
     
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    TLDR as always employment and consumer spending keep the machine rolling. I’ve already noticed consumer spending down, now it’s all about how private sector fares and whether employment can stay up.
     
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    im sure our socialist government will create enough fake jobs to keep everyone employed.
     
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    I didn't see the tabloid 6pm news or "A Current Crapolio".....but no doubt they led with the interest rate rise starting with old mate "Blow Hard" reporter standing in Martin Place reporting on the 50bps rise, then cutting to some Miss Bimboalot talking to a family of 4...... Mum & Dad and 2 under 10 ankle bitters in Penrith who whilst standing next to the 2021 4WD and 20 foot Quintrex cry poor and don't know how they'll manage given the 1/2 % rise in rates.....The camera tightens on Mum who is starting to tear up who blames the Govt for now having less money per week to spend and now only being able to see the manicurist once a month and dine at Panthers twice a week now.
     
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    Never fear 'mortgage keeper' on the way soon.
     
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