1860 SOV grade opinion

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  1. bubblebobble2

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    I can believe that coin is graded as MS60... look @the reverse.... letters are sooo weak and faded... still graded as MS60... am I missing something?
     
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    Strike shouldn't matter so much. BUt certainly most AU55 and 58 type coins are better condition.
     
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    Compare these two form PCGS... which one has higher grade? o_O
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    As much as I like 1870 grade, must say it'll be 1860 has higher grade due to its scarcity.. don't tell me both in MS grade level
     
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    But scarcity should not affect grading... You can have a bog standard PM silver bullion 2021 kangaroo in top grade MS70.
    I just posted the 1870 because the design is exactly comparable to the 1860 - only the year is different. The grading should be based on the condition of the coins, right?
     
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    Totally agree @jultorsk, the scarcity or otherwise of a coin should have no bearing on the grading a coin is given.
    It is supposed to be about the condition of the coin only and nothing else.
     
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    Just from what I've seen I would guess graders are only shown examples of year and not type.

    In fairness they are pretty consistent grading StG and Shields. Type I & II though...
     
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    Fair enough - here's a 1860 for comparison. :cool:

    (The 1870 above and this one are same grade, btw.)
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    If that 1860 is on MS60... I think mine has better chance to get that grade too :D
     
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    They're both AU58. Not complaining, but might contemplate sending the 1870 to NGC in attempt to cross-over and hopefully get it "upgraded" to MS.
     
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    Heard this one too... Depending on the grader on that day, you might get lucky on coin grades
     
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    I would say Drake sterling photography is very honest. Coins look better in the hand.
     
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    I'm not doubting his pics.. just the grading from PGCS
     
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