2020 Collapse

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  1. TreasureHunter

    TreasureHunter Well-Known Member

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    How Does China's Social Credit System Work?
     
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    No my POST double posted haha sorry. Hopefully it doubles tho!
     
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    The social credit score is nonsense. You put people into a zoo, they can’t reproduce as no one will be in the mood. It will only lead to a plunging marriage and birth rate worst than any country in history.
     
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    ‘Reality tv’ has also been considered nonsense for some 20 years, but it evolved and clings on stronger than ever to this day. Although not a system it’s still society projecting and judging itself. I wager that China will advance the system and one day prove/claim it is the most scalable solution for a global civilisation.
     
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    don't get sucked into it, it only really effects fraction of people life.

    ie if they have bad credit scores, criminal records, medical conditons, affliated in gangs or coluts and few other things

    Australia and America basically collate the same information, and most key things are accessible with little or no effort
     
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    heartastack Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    that’s what I mean. It might prove powerfully scaleable if optimised in the right way
     
  7. TreasureHunter

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    True, but it has far worse effects:
    - people will be more and more isolated from each other due to the fact that they aren't allowed to communicate normally
    (the Orwellian plan works: they will live like isolated individuals keeping their opinions to themselves, not knowing what is happening to others)
    - more people will become emotionally "sick" due to repressed feelings
    - endless dictatorship: no-one will EVER dare to do anything against the communist regime, because of the Orwellian surveillance & punishment system, so dictatorships will thrive
    - in fact, I think Kim Jong-Un will simply slide on his butt into the digital Orwellianism, which favors him (oh, it was literally invented for North Korea): no, North Korea will never become "democratic", we the rest will become LIKE IT!
    - this is the censorship of the truth, what is true or not will be decided by "Big Brother"

    MINISTRY OF TRUTH.


    And now about the MINISTRY OF LOVE:

    Marriage rates are falling down in the western world as well, due to the tremendous disadvantages it has to men.

    The way modern marriage is, it only favors women: men get ripped-off if the women decides to divorce, all the laws are in favor of women, some countries and US states require alimony after divorce (the man is forced to pay a "fee" to the divorced wife, similarly to child care), almost exclusively men pay childcare and other "fees", while women collect the benefits etc.

    Plus, in modern times you have no time for marriage. In fact, marriage makes no sense with Tinder and the fact that people just "hook up" for a short while, just to "hook up" with new people later on.

    The false "harrassement" charges that date back to "alleged events" that "might have happened" 25 years ago are destroying relationships.

    I was amazed to see a video with a woman accusing Trump of "making advances" to her, hugging her and kissing her. From how it sounds, it seems like a mere VERY SOFT "romantic act". No force, no violence. She didn't oppose, just "changed her mind" two decades later.

    What the hell is this? o_O

    In the UK, you can get charged of harassments just by looking at a woman for too long.

    I just hope the harassments accusations and punishments also work the other way around :p

    The way people live nowadays has destroyed family, love and interpersonal relationships.

    MINISTRY OF LOVE.
     
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    Any system in which the government has heavy involvement in personal lives may work in the short run, but in the long run, society will stifle because everyone is scared of making a mistake, and the stress will cause infertility. A "grading" system will further add to the stress.

    I've always heard stories of people who migrated to Australia due to the local exam system. I remembered having exams at primary 1 or grade 1, and at primary 3, students are put in different classes based on their exam results, class A, B, C, D, ... F. Class A will be for the top students, F for pass, those who fail will be streamed into an "extended programme" where an additional 2 years will be added to the usual 6 years primary school. Everyone will need to bring back the exam report book for parent signature. I heard it's better now, exams only from primary 3/grade 3.

    Exam stress is much higher in China, Korea is another example, another society with plunging birth rate. Adding a "social score" will further add to the stress. Imagine a future when applying for a job, you need to enter your "social score" or maybe the dating app will automatically show your "social score"?

    A social score system is basically feudalism. Because the elites and powerful and their kids will be exempted. It will only be applicable for the peasants. The next step will be create a family social score so if your kids or parents have a bad score, you will be penalised.
     
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    you cannot buy silver based on such social score lol
    being pro American get your ticket to JAIL in China, or worst, you go to jail for being a Chinese in America
     
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    Agree with most but not for North Korea. Kim is a ruthless and very bold dictator but very conscious of his image and legacy on the history books. There’s actually a chance that North Korea might end up opening up just like Burma. In fact, it takes a very bold and ruthless dictatorship to do just that. But this won’t happen to China as the elites are too scared of their own and the lives of their family to surrender even an inch of control.

    As I said what the devil offers you is no different from a Nigeria scam. It plays on your greed. That’s why so many will fall for it. Even educated people and PhDs.

    But eventually it will fall apart as all scams do. Once people realise there’s no ice cream, they will revolt, this is guaranteed by history over and over again. That’s why no socialist system last more than 2 or 3 generations. Scams are not made to last.
     
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    Some analysts and vloggers are expecting a stronger US dollar this year. Not sure if because of the vaccinations coupled with the re-ignition of the US economy or, if it's a wider economic conjuncture (I believe the EU will suffer this year).

    Meanwhile:

    Russian Oil Drilling Giant Opens a Crypto Mining Farm Run on Gas Energy
    "Gazpromneft, the oil subsidiary of Russian natural gas giant Gazprom, is getting into a different kind of exploration.

    The company opened a venue for cryptocurrency mining on one of its oil drilling sites in Siberia, unlocking the power of Russia’s oil and gas resources for the needs of bitcoin (BTC, -9.87%) mining.

    Gazprom, a company that counts the Russian government as a shareholder, is the country’s gas monopolist and world’s 10th-biggest oil producer. The company has been spearheading several mega-projects of cross-border gas pipelines such as the Nord Stream and the South Stream, which bring Russian gas to Europe."

    [...]

    Original article:
    https://www.coindesk.com/russian-oil-drilling-giant-opens-mining-farm

    Further articles:
    https://www.coindesk.com/gazprombank-switzerland-bitcoin-transactions-payments
    https://gazprombank.ch/crypto-blockchain-services/


    This is mad. Today I read elsewhere that the ECB is considering to launch a cryptocurrency.

    I think they're letting Bitcoin, Coindesk, Revolut and other services, products and phenomena run wild until they come up with a hypercrontrolled digital Euro and Dollar. Perhaps it will be a digital Eurodollar. Thing is, you won't hold it, you won't own it.

    Coupled with universal basic income (slavery) + social credit score (hypermonitoring) = Orwell's nightmare


    Funny thing: Gerald Celente has recently included "cryptocurrency" in his "papagallo speech" - he used to say "guns gold 'n' a getaway plan", which turned "silver, gold and cryptocurrency".
     
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    While Bitcoin has hit 35,000 USD, gold is nearing 1,950 $. Instead of crashing, it seems like indeed - gold is getting ready to climb even higher than before. Above 2,000 $?

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    The dollar is getting decimated but celente is almost too much to take now. He gets too emotional for me and starts screaming at little boy Cuomo haha.
    Hes on the same level as schiff for me now both broken records, cant listen to either very often.
     
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    Gold is almost reaching my first 2021 buy, exceeded the second buy by 3%. Ag buy up 12%, pt up an astonishing 20%! Copper and Iron no need mention. As you can see, gold is still the cheapest metal and least risky bet at the moment.
     
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    you go to jail for being a Chinese spy in America. you go to jail in china for just being Australian lol get your facts right lol
     
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    ^ your fact is just wrong, you see Assange go to jail, wasted years for what, he would be better of a free man had he skip to HK, just like Snowden did in Russia
     
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    Umm since when was he chinese? we were talking about chinese citizens, not Australian hackers who thought it would be a good idea to hack USA files and put them on the internet.

    If Julian was a Chinese citizen who hacked Chinese files and put that on the internet I bet he wouldnt end up in jail, he would be assassinated or worse tortured to death and organs harvested ahaha. So dont play the old Chinese gov is compassionate thing. fuck they arrested Australian journalists who were reporting HK protests lol.

    I know your CCP mates give you a good wage to spread Bullshit but the gig is up with China. No one trusts those fuckers any more
     
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    ^ imagination you are full of it
     
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