2020 Collapse

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  1. Real $

    Real $ Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Wrong thread perhaps but on quick inspection of debt clock last few years it had prices obviously much higher then market quoted spot prices...haven't checked for awhile but Ag was around 3-4k and Au over 20k. Now along with Oil they're worth asterisks? Put it up afew days ago elsewhere still showing no value,there's also a "time machine" type feature...fast forward to 2027 and still nothing but asterisks and previous years values been erased ;)
     

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    JohnnyBravo300 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The debt clock is only an estimate tool that some guy made up. Means nothing.
     
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    Real $ Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Agreed mate but do find it interesting and it seems a far more accurate tracking then the official numbers that were provided. Alot of stackers keep an eye on the paper to physical,etc...find it crazy how U see the 31trillion tick away second by second and also the amount of gold,silver,etc mined :)
     
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    JohnnyBravo300 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yeah its an eye opener seeing those numbers flying by for sure.
     
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    hardyakkagold Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    This is due to the M1 & M2 Money Supply both going into negative territory with the current liquidity crisis and interest rate hikes.

    It is all being engineered by the Banksters same as it was before the great depression of the 1930s.

    I hope that at least some of you sheeple on here are awake to what is happening before your eyes and are preparing accordingly.
     
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    Real $ Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Alot of us see mate but the system is well established now and I like to semi prepare best I can for boon,boom or bust. We're consumers...we feed the beast if it goes to far to hell we can't fulfil our duties as slaves and livestock for the elitist. There's far more safe guards in place now, though the signs are there "the times are a changing" and the precious metals markets are a tiny piece of the pie. Zoom out the charts tell the story, for me gold and silver are for insurance particularly gold and because I enjoy them. But stocks still make cash even as an amateur and that cash buys real $...gold and to lesser degree silver. Just imo
     
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    Thankyou for the explanation but.The price of silver on the clock was around 4k in 2020 due to monetary policy then far less and now * bank bail ins and "to big to fail" institutions are yet another reason to save our cash in metals and for insurance, especially with such a forum to make liquidity far easier and to deal with people like ourselves who value similar things
     
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    All I know is that the last time both the Money Supplies went sharply negative was in 1929 and we all know what followed that.

    We are already at a worse point with the money supply than during the GFC in 2008, and yet nobody seems to give a fuck nowadays (until it bites them on the arse):rolleyes:.
     
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    M2 Dec 2021 22.6 trillion
    M2 Dec 2022 22.3 trillion

    A 1.3% decline is "sharply negative"? o_O
     
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    It certainly is going sharply negative and has got some way to go before it bottoms out, which won't happen until QE starts again and that
    won't happen for some time yet.

    Is it not time for your mother to tuck you into bed and give you a good night kiss, shiney?
     
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    fredgraph.png

    Damn that's sharp. A goldbug could lose a finger on that.
     
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    It's an accounting trick. The Fed won't print money to pay for losses, it will carry them forward as an asset to offset future income. The Fed can never run out of money. There's nothing to the chart except some magic bookkeeping. :)

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4563758-how-big-fed-losses-where-can-we-see-them
     
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    Debt ceiling will be lifted, more liquidity will be injected by Treasury.
     
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    We Just Witnessed An Economic Sign That Hasn't Happened Since The Peak Of The Great Depression In 1932



    Economic conditions are much worse than you are being told. Throughout the past year, prices have been rising much faster than most of our incomes have. As a result, our standard of living has been rapidly declining. It has become increasingly difficult for U.S. households to make it from month to month, and as you will see below, more than a third of all U.S. adults are actually relying on their parents to pay at least some of their bills at this point.
    But even more alarming is what has been happening to real disposable income. According to Fox Business, the most recent GDP report revealed that the decline in real disposable income that we witnessed in 2022 was the largest that has been measured since 1932…

    The most troubling information in the GDP report is the precipitous drop in real disposable income, which fell over $1 trillion in 2022.
    For context, this is the
    second-largest percentage drop in real disposable income ever, behind only 1932, the worst year of the Great Depression.
    Just think about that for a moment.
    The last time real disposable income declined this quickly was literally during the peak of the Great Depression.
     
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    Someone should tell the Australian people, because here people are still spending like there is no tomorrow. Way too much money sloshing around.
     
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    Debt ceiling is like global warming, it's the event that never happens. :D
     
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    Which stats does The Fed look at? There's a few different income reports out there and depending upon the report real incomes have gone up in 2022 or they've gone down in 2022.
     
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    90% of the Aussie sheeple are waxed out of their brains and are not capable of rational thoughts or comprehension even if you tell them the truth.

    I am trying to tell some of the others but even amongst some of them, it is a waste of time as they have been so completely brainwashed by the establishment.
     
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    Still a whole heap of people willing to pay lots for dumb stuff. Used cars, collectables etc...
     
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