Silver Casting | SilverSmith

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    Golden ChipMunk Well-Known Member

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    Love to see SilverSmith that doing casting, jewelry ... etc; your work or some work you bought.
    Rookies to Experts , Can you show us..... what you make and have....
     
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    Some amateur casting's
    Cougar belt buckles -sand cast
    Thor's hammer pendant(Un polished)-Delft clay
    Large rippled bracelet (3rd in from pic)-Carved cast

    Quick run down for people.Bear in mind I am a beginner so I'm open to all advice.
    • Delft Clay is the most expensive clay but gives excellent detail without to much fuss but affordable supplies tend to be sporadic in Australia, so I just import mine from the USA.
    • Casting sand is very affordable & great for most projects but requires a little bit more clean up to achieve detailed finishes.
    • I was taught a great method by a very experienced sand castor to use Delft clay combined with Casting sand.Basically the cheaper casting sand comprises 90% of the material with about a 5 to 10mm layer of Delft clay on top to capture beautiful intricate detail.I have yet to try this as I just received my new order of Delft recently
    • If there are any wax carver's out there that can do up smaller Celtic/Maori styles shapes I am keen to get my hands on some carvings to cast in silver!
    The Belt buckle's show the grainy finish of the casting sand I was using from PMC Supplies in the USA.I might make one using Delft/cast sand combo to show the difference in finish.

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    Some rough Jewellery workings for men
    • 14ct I think from memory Mens Cuff
    • 24ct Viking weave ring
    • Failure! work in progress Viking weave neck ring.This is my second attempt at a neck ring the first done in Argentium silver with a larger 2mm individual strand robust weave was done using a twist method that I just couldn't get right.I am having a third go with Sterling wire and and the same twist technique as the one in the picture.
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    The weaving looks very amazing @REDBACK ;)
    Is that like a plait? or multiple twists combine together?
     
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    Its a variation that uses a central round wire core surrounded by 5 clockwise twisted pair's, then an anti clockwise twist around the central core.No tapering on any of the round wires.
    I learnt a lot about dimensions from this failed neck ring, the weave should have been longer and I should have done a quick mock up in soft tinned wire to get all the measurements right for the sizing.But its really a hobby that I use to get away so most things are unplanned off the cuff so to speak.

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    @REDBACK
    Once Liver of Sulfur applied and then polished, it will looks very good.
    I have seen some on Youtube and do have some plans.
     
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    Thats a really good idea +10
     
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    Part One

    Crucible is a container / pot that will withstand greater heat for melting your metals.
    Can be made from various materials, you will be surprise when I mention Platinum crucible ( commonly in Lab use ).
    Commonly crucible are made from Silica , Graphite and etc...

    - Choosen the right size crucible for your melting.
    - Preparing your crucible , initial cook it with High heat without anything and slowly cool it off.
    - Don't forget your prong and safety gear such as goggles, thick leather gloves.
    - Choosing The right burner.
     
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    First object for melting.


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    First own silvershots
     
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    Your silver shot looks good
    What process did you use?
     
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    Just tap water in a stainless steel pot then Molten silver slowly dripped into it.
    Never done it before. I was going to make them round pallets.
    All I keep getting was tiny dip dish cups.
     
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    Yes look up lead shot towers, meaning lead gun shot production in day's gone past.
    Height = cooling b4 hitting water
    Haven't been able to reproduce perfect round shot yet on a larger practical scale.
     
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    What did I produce??
    1 ozt Bars , Repeat the processes until I am good at reproduction.

    Plain Bar

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    Wavy Bar

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    All the shot towers I've seen have all been over 10 metres, so I wouldn't expect it to be worthwhile unless you really needed that ball shape.
     
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    Shot towers are only required for spherical formed silver, I think "Cornflake" silver is more what you're after right?
    Just drop it out of your crucible a not too small drop at a time into a deep bucket of water.
    That's my method for inquarting
     
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    I'll try to get this improve but is not crucial , most important is to divide them metal accordingly by weight as they will be remelted again.
     
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    So the smaller the shot, the better for you.... essentially it all comes down to the size of the droplet you allow to drop from the crucible to the water.
    Cornflake silver is useful for refining due to it's large surface area.
     
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    Plain vs Wavy in my personal experience is the temp of the pour including the heat of the mould.

    ie just barely melted silver in to warm mould vs super heated silver into a hot mould.

    note: super heated -> I dont mean 50 degrees more but likely just 2 or 3 degrees. ie if you look closely as the silver melt the flow goes from melted honey to water like with extra 5 minutes of heating

    Hot mould = a mould that has residual heat from a pour or two in the last 15 minutes or so
     
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