2020 Collapse

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  1. TreasureHunter

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    Contrary to logic, the west and the Israelis are helping the Azeris instead of protecting the Armenians.
    Iran and Russia are trying to appear "neutral".

    Probably because no-one wants to have a conflict with Turkey.
     
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    Russia, Israel, Turkey they are all on the same side. The Saudis and gulf states are another bloc with some alliances with the US. China and Iran on the opposing end. This will determine the US elections outcome.

    66round is correct, all roads lead to Jerusalem...
     
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    I doubt they're really on the same side.

    Turkey has strong tensions and quite bad relations with Israel since the storming of a Turkish vessel by the Israeli army a few years ago. Turkey is sending humanitarian help to the Palestinians.

    Recently the Hagia Sophia was transformed into a mosque and Russia didn't dare contradict Turkey (perhaps due to Turkey's strong influence on other Turkic countries/populations bordering- and within Russia).

    Russia has at most opportunistic relationships with Turkey and in many things they don't agree. I think they are just using each other.

    Israel-Russia-Turkey is not a side, but several opportunistic ties connect them. And the problems they have are just as many as the things that connect them.

    Iran is the "jolly joker" in the middle, which China, Russia use the way they want, while Turkey and Israel are rather on the opposing side.


    The current reorganization of the balance of power is very worrying.

    While the US is losing ground, tyrranical, non-democratic regimes are gaining ground. Europe is not a player.

    Kissinger (or who?) said something like this (I'm paraphrasing): "If I want to call Russia, I know who to call, but if I want to call Europe, whom do I talk to?"

    Europe is not only not a power, the EU is crumbling from within. Brexit was the first brick, but the EU is decomposing slowly. My opinion.


    I just hope this idiocy ends peacefully.
     
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    I was just about searching on Europe when I encountered a comparison between spoken Polish and Russian words. It's almost like the same language. New to me as I never knew they were so similar as the alphabet is different. If they were Chinese dialects, they would be sub-dialects, not even considered dialects, let alone a different language.

     
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    First time I see anyone does this. It's difficult to breathe even using an N95 in a warm weather. N95 + surgical is quite a challenge. It would be far more comfy to use an N95 and a face shield.

    Coming back to your question. To counter tyrannical regimes, you must be one yourself to level the playing field. If Trump loses, the decline of democracy will accelerate worldwide.

    A lot of people are actually looking forward to the new world order without actually understanding what it entails. The tyrannical regimes also do not always work with each other, as eventually, they will invariably become arch enemies and fight wars much more devastating than between democratic nations, such as the war between Hilter and Stalin.

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    400 terorists terminated, 4000 more to go, will be terminated as well
    its a good place to eliminate terorists that Russia and Syria did not killed
    Turkey second most powerful Nato member, which is weak, when Russia stop tourist there
    Turkey seems to be in dispute will all the neighbours lol
    Greece,
    the sides are moving, like the end time
    the outcome would be the same, as the players are the same
     
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    @sgbuyer I agree with you. But the transparent face shields are far less popular. I think so far I only saw a single person wearing one. Perhaps no-one dears wearing one until it too becomes "fashionable".

    The valve masks are "sexy", but not sure if better than a KN95 without valve. The feeling (to me was similar).
     
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    Yes, in fact many slavic languages are mutually-intelligible. The difference is sometimes smaller than between Cantonese and Mandarin.

    Perhaps the weirdest language of a country in Europe is Hungarian. Sounds like nothing else. Literally no-one can understand almost anything Hungarians speak.

    Most of Europe is split between 3 main language families: Germanic (and Anglo-Saxon), Latin and Slavic peoples.
    A few others are "out of the box": Greek, Hungarian, Basque (the latter two not even Indo-European) and there's also Turkish, Albanian...
     
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    How is Corona in China?

    Not many updates officially, are they not telling us about the situation? According to my online research, the "second wave" hasn't happened yet and they're still reporting figures of around 4,600 dead.
     
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    I’m pretty sure they can control the virus with quarantine measure, immediate hospitalisation and whole city testing in place. Similar measures locally but we don’t test the entire city. It doesn’t make sense for us since our borders are open and people can come and go. If we do full city testing, we’ll need to do it every 2 weeks.

    The only risk now is the vaccination itself which has not been fully tested and may backfire. I means this isn’t the first outbreak of SARS, the first time was in 2003. If a vaccine was possible, it would have been created years ago.
     
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    Interesting video with Lagarde talking about a digital euro currency and "not letting a good crisis go to waste":


    It is funny how it is all built on the pandemic. I haven't seen Lagarde so far pushing a new digital currency. Now it seems like it is really true.

    I think they might create a new Bitcoin-like currency that's trackable and most probably they will devalue the current fiat currencies by moving gradually into the newer one (which will be more expensive and will become increasingly more expensive thus, devaluing the old one).

    CONTROLLED HYPERINFLATION. CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF THE CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
     
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    The poor and lower class minorities will suffer the most with loss of value but of course it will be blamed on the racism of the american citizens haha.
    It never fails.
     
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    It’s the same in every country. The industries most affected, retail, tourism and food establishments and lower income unskilled workers. The use of racism is similar to the tactic kids use in school, calling their classmates names, blaming them, it's a trick even 4 year old kids know. It's psychological warfare.
     
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    Well - in Europe things are going worse with the infections (but not so much with hospitalisations/deaths)...
    Covid-related travel restrictions are tightening every week in Central Europe. I'm wondering if we'll see another round of Swiss refiner related hoopla within a month or so. :confused:
     
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    I'm still waiting to see of the "officials" will try to force the mask thing or lockdowns with penalties or arrest.
    Until it gets more extreme nothing too exciting will happen here.
    I wish they'd get on with it. I'm tired of waiting around and not wearing a mask is pretty normal everywhere now for the most part. People are over it and the cops dont care be involved with it.
    I'm betting on some more lockdowns and that kind of stuff this winter for the US. We will see but I think its still far from over and the flu blame has alot of ground to cover.

    No way will the sellouts ever take blame for failure of policy.
     
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    I simply think that there is everything: poverty, racism, propaganda, false accusations... everything. Racism against blacks, racism against whites, everything is real + 95 % fake news to "add a little flavor" :D

    5 % truth + 95 % news propaganda following an agenda
     
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    The new world order is about race. Why did Japan new PM visit Vietnam and Indonesia in the midst of a pandemic? Japan is forming an alliance in South East Asia with them as the leader.

    Contrary to what most people believe, the new world order is not even about democracy vs communism or socialism as communism no longer exists, even in north korea. This is what the globalists want you to believe, but reality is otherwise.
     
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    I hope the pandemic ends by next year. I hope we'll have a vaccine by spring.

    Otherwise this will spiral out of control. The world has gone mad. I think many evil forces are starting conflicts and other stupid things, while Corona is occupying most of the world. The Karabakh conflict also started now. China's conflict with India as well. The Taiwan crisis also. North Korea shows off its new weapons.

    This idiocy makes no sense. They're like children.

    The sooner Corona ends, the sooner we'll see clearly and the economies will "recover" (by this I mean, we won't keep going down into the dark pit as we're certainly headed right now).
     
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    The annexed changi airport shopping mall on a weekday a month ago.

     

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