2000 1oz Year of the Dragon Gold Coin in "Slab" ebay listing

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  1. johnnyhann

    johnnyhann Active Member Silver Stacker

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    johnnyhann, Aug 20, 2017
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    His roo which ends in 2hrs+ is also another obvious fake
     
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    johnnyhann Active Member Silver Stacker

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    indeed!
     
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    this whole listing is very funny,fishy or whatever. I asked for pic with today's paper which seller has provided-easy photoshop I guess?- but when I asked for f2f to check the coin no more respond.seller already sold 2 or more of this coin.the NGC number checks out on the website so very confusing.I think seller just got the pic of the coin from somewhere and no actual coin at all. just another thing which clearly shows dont buy metal off ebay.
     
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    johnnyhann Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I'm guessing they can easily just use a legitimate NGC number and put that all on the fakes so you wouldn't suspect anything?

    My view is just to stay vigilant when purchasing metals (especially gold) on eBay, regardless of seller's 100% positive feedback, in a slab, etc. Always pay with Paypal (and through a credit card for double protection) so you are covered in the event you need to dispute a transaction/request a return.
     
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    that is exactly what they do.they want you to run after your money after you realized what has happened.even with paypal and CC you still have to show and proof lots of stuff + your time...
     
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    Yes, the counterfeiters pull real cert numbers off the NGC and PCGS websites, so if you look up the numbers on the fake slabs, they do correspond to the correct coin. Sometimes there are still typos on the counterfeit labels, and usually the holographic sticker isn't quite right.
     
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    It's strange as some of those sellers are selling legitimate items as well. It seems like they may have bought the fake from someone else and are just perpetuating the cycle until someone realises that it is fake either 1) long time collector with a keen eye or individual with testing equipment or 2) dealer who refuses to buy as tested as fake

    Edited from "all" of the sellers to "some"
     
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    He's just waiting for overseas buyer to snap one and do a runner...
     
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    Fake eagles and krugerrands too now. I reported the items - maybe if a few others do the same it will come as a red flag and eBay will have a look at it.

    Feel bad for all the buyers that have bought over ten thousand worth already from this scammer.
     
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    I remember coming across this article a while ago. Assuming it is still ebay policy, then those eagles / krugerrands listings should have to be taken down immediately if reported (since they are only pictured in the bottom part of a slab with no reference to any approved grading company)

    http://www.ebay.com/gds/eBay-policy...er-working-with-ANA-/10000000004467239/g.html



    The following excerpt is taken from ebay's current "Stamp, Currency and Coin policy":

    Approved grading companies:

    If a coin isn't graded by one of these grading companies, it's considered raw and must meet the requirements for raw coin listings.
    A coin graded by a non-approved grading company can be listed, but the numeric grade can't be included in the title, description, or item specifics. You can't include an image of the coin in its graded holder if that image shows a grade that is not completely obscured and unreadable on the photo.

    The full policy can be viewed here https://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/currstamps.html
     
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