Gold bar/ingot collectibility Vs Silver bar/ingot collectibility

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  1. Eureka Moments

    Eureka Moments Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Will gold always be so valuable in its own right that specific brands and types or rare items will never achieve anything like the premiums and collector status that some silver products have over the years? Englehard are a good example.

    Gold bars and ingots are usually produced in much smaller quantities than Silver and doesnt tarnish but this doesnt seem to matter.
     
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  2. Aurora et luna

    Aurora et luna Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I think there's more people who are able to afford a few hundred dollars for a collectable silver bar than gold collectors with an easy $1600 in their wallet.
     
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  3. Eureka Moments

    Eureka Moments Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Ive seen 1oz silver bars sell for over $500 but 1oz of gold of even rarer proportions cant even get a 10% premium over spot and very little premium difference to a common retail 1oz bar.

    Has this previously and will it always be that way?
     
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  4. Andy28

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    Gold is just too "expensive" for there to be enough people chasing collectable bars.
     
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    Jislizard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I would be happy to pay a decent premium on something like a gold bar made, at the time, from the original gold strikes at Gympie or Victoria, or California.

    I can even see a premium being applied to any nazi gold when the Swiss banks are finally made to give it all up. If anyone can find the hidden nazi gold in the lakes I am sure that it would be a very popular, if macabre, addition to many stacks.

    But otherwise it seems a waste of gold to just keep it in a lump.

    Now I was interested in the silver bars that were recently raised from the SS Gairsoppa but the decided to turn them into coins, not so interested in them after that.

    Mind you, I am not that interested in silver bars anyway...
     
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  6. Altima

    Altima Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I've seen some collectors of gold bars. Could be worth diversifying into. You never know you might bump into a rich guy who will pay you much much more.
     
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    Golightly Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I understand the dynamics of why some bars become collectable Englehard for example, but it still baffles me as to why people would pay it..
    And as with gold. Too expensive
     
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    bull_bear New Member Silver Stacker

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    If the choice is between (say)

    11 x 10oz premium silver bars, @ $300 each,
    or 2 x 1oz premium gold bars @1650 each

    I think most people would find the variety of the 11 silver bars more interesting to look at than just two (much smaller) bars.
     
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    The governor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Well I have just started down this track. Collecting vintage/rare 1oz gold bars.I collect these because it keeps me away from the dark side
    (Cough) numismatics I know a couple dealers in syd who still sells these as generic gold,when they have them.Plus it satifies my urge to collect things.plus I'm thinking a lot of these gold lollies end up in the melting pot.So they are becoming rare ....
     
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  10. Aurora et luna

    Aurora et luna Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Not mine unfortunately! :(

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    The governor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Dam you Aurora it's your gold vintage collectible thread that started me down this dark road ha ha
     
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    dragafem Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    just because those collectors not on this forum they are still around,i assume ...
     
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  13. Gatito Bandito

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    Not all of them were turned into Britannia's, 10-oz bars & 1-oz rounds..


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYigYP46svI

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    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    At the FUN Show:

    1980s Engelhard 1/2oz gold bar - $750
    1980s Engelhard 4oz silver bar - $2600
    1800s San Francisco Mint 26oz silver bar - $50,000 (only example known)
     
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    argento Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Some of us may scratch our heads and wonder why someone would pay $500 for a 1oz silver bar, or pay a premium on a 1kg silver bar just because it has swirls on it.

    At the end of the day , these people are called collectors

    No different to someone paying $3000 for an uncirculated 20 cent piece.....because it has a swirl on it
    or someone paying hundreds of dollars for baseball cards, match boxes.....

    Collectors across the board have been paying premiums for years......its nothing new.

    If someone wants something bad enough, they will pay the price whether its a bullion bar/ingot or coke bottle.
     
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  16. rarebullion

    rarebullion New Member

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    Hi,

    Just thought I'd share our beautiful website with some very rare and collectible gold bars available. Thanks for looking..

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  17. Jislizard

    Jislizard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Perth Mint has a nice collection of gold bars on the tour, not just 1oz sizes either.

    It does look pretty impressive.
     
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    Beautiful collection thank you for sharing.
     
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